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    Bo,Quote You say Satan has been defeated if that were the case how is it the scripture says:1 Peter 5:8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:So the truth is Satan is still very much active and leading many to misery in this life and hell in the next.Because Jesus laid…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Pierre,We do NOT know from scripture that the Son was created as his very first creation. In fact He possessed Him before His works of old.

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    Jodi Lee,Welcome back! From what I have gained from researching about the Logos of John 1:1, the Word of the Lord was a very familiar expression to the Jews which you can see in the Jewish Targums. John was referring to that 'Word' that they were very familiar with.Quote In Aramaic, a standard term for word is memra. The Aramaic Targums, however,…[Read more]

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    Mike,The blood on the robe before the battle represents the blood of the martyrs that Jesus is going to defend, imo.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,18:25)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,16:47)Well Mike,Scripture tells us that Jehovah is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords and that there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ…also that Jesus Christ is the Lord of lords. So, I didn't make it up…it is written. Using that criteria, I could…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,18:32)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,17:20)I suppose YHVH our righteousness could be written and that one name cover all three, God the Father, the city and Jesus.So then the name of the Father is also “Jehovah is our Righteousness”?  Kathi, in 3:12, Jesus clearly speaks of writing THREE different names on…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ June 24 2013,18:24)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,04:26)Kerwin,It is written here:Rev 3:21The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.Quote Are the members of the Godbody also Jehovah?No, but they are identified as belonging to Jehovah. His name…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Mike,Rev 3:12The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.I suppose YHVH our righteousness could be written and that one name…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Well Mike,Scripture tells us that Jehovah is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords and that there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ…also that Jesus Christ is the Lord of lords. So, I didn't make it up…it is written. The position that Jesus gained that He did not have before was the position of the kinsman redeemer and High…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2013,11:02)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,09:02)Quote (terraricca @ June 23 2013,10:33)Quote (Lightenup @ June 23 2013,12:37)The action was taking someone who was eternal life, from one place and moving Him to another…He was brought forth. The action was not bringing someone to life that didn't exist.YHVH was…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Kerwin,It is written here:Rev 3:21The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.Quote Are the members of the Godbody also Jehovah?No, but they are identified as belonging to Jehovah. His name is written on their forheads.

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    Jesus did not do any sin. He was accused falsely of blasphemy which was part of the plan of God. His death fulfilled prophecy and paid the price to redeem the church. If you don't believe Jesus died and that by His blood we are healed, then you do not believe the Bible and the gospel of Jesus Christ. You deny Him the very purpose for which He…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 19 2013,18:13)Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2013,04:57)That is good Pierre, consider both. The original would be the one that was God breathed and the other one may also be God breathed. When you come to what seems to be discrepancies, then the original would be the one to go by though. The true original would give the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2013,20:18)Quote (Lightenup @ June 18 2013,20:26)Both Judean and Galilean Aramaic are two very similar dialects of Aramaic which were spoken in Israel in the 1st century.But they are both Aramaic, right?  So one wouldn't write in Aramaic, and then add, “which means in Aramaic…….”.They could write in GALILEAN…[Read more]

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    Mike,If I was writing to people who speak American English and quote something in British English and then translate it to them, what is odd about that? There are probably all sorts of words that the British English speakers use that need clarification to a person who speaks American English. In that case, I would specify the quote as said in…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 23 2013,12:18)Quote (Lightenup @ June 22 2013,22:39)He isn't lower than the angels anymore. He is back to the glory that He had with the Father before the world began.Actually, he was exalted by his and our God to a glory that even EXCEEDS the glory he had when the universe was created through him – the glory he had before…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2013,06:38)Quote (Lightenup @ June 23 2013,10:39)Quote (kerwin @ June 20 2013,12:30)Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2013,05:07)Quote (kerwin @ June 18 2013,16:44)LU,Does Jehovah sit on David's throne?Yes Kerwin, Jehovah the Son sits on David's throne according to His role as the Son of Man.LU,Your teaching confuses me as it…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ June 23 2013,10:33)Quote (Lightenup @ June 23 2013,12:37)The action was taking someone who was eternal life, from one place and moving Him to another…He was brought forth. The action was not bringing someone to life that didn't exist.YHVH was alone…YHVH is BOTH the God of gods AND the Lord of lords.Quote Back to two gods…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 30 2013,20:39)I haven't seen it yet, but intend to.  When you waved to him, were you giggling like a school girl groupie?  Or were you “composed”?  :)My e-mail is my username here, plus @yahoo.comMike,Did you see the movie yet? It is at the cheap theater in this area so it soon will be gone. The dvd comes out mid-July.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 11 months ago

    The action was taking someone who was eternal life, from one place and moving Him to another…He was brought forth. The action was not bringing someone to life that didn't exist.YHVH was alone…YHVH is BOTH the God of gods AND the Lord of lords.Quote Back to two gods ?You have said that you knew Jesus was a theos for many years. Why do you have…[Read more]

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