Quote (jb2u @ June 26 2013,19:59)Quote (Lightenup @ June 27 2013,04:52)Now my question to you is:Have I shown you with just using the Bible that Jesus is called “our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ?”No. You have shown me an incorrect translation of the Bible, (the NIV I assume?), but you have not shown me where the inspired word of God says…[Read more]

Bo,From what I can tell, Jesus rose sometime before dawn on Sunday morning, the first day of the week. When Jesus said three days and three nights, a day was the part of the 24 hour period from dawn to sunset and night was from sunset to dawn. When it was said that He will rise on the third day, that was a day that went from sunset to sunset the…[Read more]

kerwin,Is Jehovah a spirit?Is the Spirit of Jehovah a spirit?Is the Spirit of Christ a spirit?

Kerwin,I'm speaking of the eternal offspring of God.

Quote (kerwin @ June 26 2013,11:13)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2013,11:28)But Kerwin, I never said that Jesus sitting on YHVH's throne makes Him YHVH. I said it was His eternal self-existent nature that He shares with His Father that makes them both YHVH.LU,I am confused.  How does Jesus' eternal self-existent nature differ from Jesus? What is a…[Read more]

Pierre,Col 1 calls Jesus the Firstborn, not the first conceived or the first created. A birth simply brings out someone who has already existed.

Bo,Agreed, if you make a point that I believe is true and there is not another explanation for it, I will acknowledge it.If He died on a Thursday at 3 pm and was in the tomb before sundown, that is:day one.Friday evening begins at sundown on what we call Thursday night, that is:night one.Friday day is:day two.Saturday evening which is what we call…[Read more]

Furthermore, you claim that Jesus never says that He is YHVH but the NT that is translated from the Greek manuscripts uses the word Kyrios for YHVH and therefore you will not find Jesus saying that He is YHVH from a translation of the Greek manuscripts. You can find where God the Father calls Him YHVH if you look back to see what He is quoting…[Read more]

jb,I have been showing you that Jesus is our God and Savior with the Bible but when you claim that what I am showing you is wrong, then I show you supporting extra-Biblical evidence. Then when I show you extra-Biblical supporting evidence, you say let's stick to the Bible. Do you see what you are doing? I'll show you what I mean:You say that…[Read more]

Let's look at Jonah…Matt 1238Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered him, saying, “Teacher, we wish to see a sign from you.” 39But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly…[Read more]

Bo,This is a discussion not a debate. Ideally we would come to an agreement on what is true and that would be a win-win for both of us. I don't think of you as trying to mislead me, don't worry about that. I think you have sincere questions and I am happy to answer them with scripture, give you my understanding, and show you a perspective that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,20:22)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,18:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,18:25)Also, what is Jesus' NEW name?Mike,…….he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.So if that is his NEW name, then he HASN'T been “Jehovah our Righteousness” from eternity, has he?Of course, we already knew from John 17:11-12…[Read more]

But Kerwin, I never said that Jesus sitting on YHVH's throne makes Him YHVH. I said it was His eternal self-existent nature that He shares with His Father that makes them both YHVH.

Quote (terraricca @ June 25 2013,19:01)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2013,05:52)Pierre,1 John 11That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we p…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,18:25)Rev 3:12I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.Kathi, do you think those bolded conjunctions are there just for fun?Also, what is Jesus' NEW name?Mike,Jeremiah…[Read more]

Pierre,1 John 11That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us.

Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2013,20:03)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,06:38)Pierre,We do NOT know from scripture that the Son was created as his very first creation. In fact He possessed Him before His works of old.Kathypossessed him only means that ” HE WAS THERE ” you cannot possessed some thing that does not exist ,right yes and sins God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,20:11)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,17:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,18:32)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,17:20)I suppose YHVH our righteousness could be written and that one name cover all three, God the Father, the city and Jesus.So then the name of the Father is also “Jehovah is our Righteousness”?…[Read more]

Kerwin,Quote It appears you are applying different meanings to words associated with Jesus than those same words associated with believers. How so?Quote So according to this the whole family is named of the Father. Why doesn't that mean each member is named JehovahThat would be pretty confusing don't you think? We will have His name on our…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 25 2013,13:45)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,11:32)Jodi Lee,Welcome back! From what I have gained from researching about the Logos of John 1:1, the Word of the Lord was a very familiar expression to the Jews which you can see in the Jewish Targums. John was referring to that 'Word' that they were very familiar with.Quote In…[Read more]