Mike,you said:Quote I gave each of us half a point for this verse, since it CAN faithfully be translated two different ways. I strongly disagree and so does the NET translators. There is only one article for God and Savior and therefore both belong to one referent, Jesus Christ.Peter only wrote it one way. Since there is no Aramaic original, we…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,12:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2013,21:52)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 03 2013,21:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 03 2013,21:14)Hey tWhat in my statement about t8 is untrue?You are showing your bias also!WJWJQuote You should tell the whole story. You believe in one god the Father and one god the son.THIS IS UNTRUE…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,12:33)“Our Lord” – according to your Peshitta, right?So now what, Kathi?Also, I haven't “declared it to be translated wrong” at all.I gave each of us half a point for this verse, since it CAN faithfully be translated two different ways.  (Well three ways now, since we have that Peshitta information to add to the…[Read more]

Mike,By focusing on 1 Peter 1 that does not mean that I am admitting anything about other verses. I am just not letting you declare it to be translated wrong and get away with it. I have not even looked for another verse from Peter in this regards.Also, the second use of 'our' does not mean two referrants, it is just emphasizing that one referrant…[Read more]

So what is Jesus to you if there are other options. Is the Bible inerrant? Is the quaran inerrant?Does not knowing the hour of His return but knowing EVERYTHING ELSE somehow mean that He is not God, the Son? What if love trumps knowledge in this case. If there is a choice to express knowledge or express love, perhaps it is more loving for the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,11:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2013,15:20)Mike,Peter called Jesus 'our God and Savior' but he didn't call Him God the Father. Peter calls two different persons 'God.'No Kathi,Peter spoke about “God”, AND “our Savior Jesus Christ”.  He spoke about BOTH of these people in 2 Peter 1:1, and then he spoke about BOTH…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,20:55)WJ,Numbers  23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor the son of man, that he should repent. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it good?God is not a man.Before you say that that was BEFORE He became a man – That cannot be, because God does not change.Malachi  3:6 “…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 03 2013,21:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 03 2013,21:14)Hey tWhat in my statement about t8 is untrue?You are showing your bias also!WJWJQuote You should tell the whole story. You believe in one god the Father and one god the son.THIS IS UNTRUE ;we believe in one God but we believe that Christ the “word of God” is a…[Read more]

Bo, You ask if we are done here, well, is that all of your so called 'discrepancies?' I have answered all of them either by my own thoughts of through the thoughts of others more capable of answering them. If I can offer you explanations myself or through others, isn't that what matters? Do you not appreciate that I am trying to help you overcome…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2013,15:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2013,12:40)Also, 2 Peter 1:1 cannot faithfully be translated in two ways.Sure it can.Are you ready to post your second scripture?  Or are you ready to admit that your interpretation of 2 Peter 1:1 is ALL YOU HAVE in the way of pretending that Peter confused Jesus with…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2013,15:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2013,12:42)Jesus was a priest in the same order as Melchizadek not a God in the same order as Melchizadek. You are just trying to cause confusion, Mike.Jesus IS a priest of God in the order of Melchizadek, Kathi.If the later priest can BE the Godhead, then why not the earlier…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2013,12:47)Well then we better add in Melchizadek as one of our Gods too.  Because Jesus will be a priest in his order, which places Mel pretty high up in “the principal of Godhead” – don't you think?Jesus was a priest in the same order as Melchizadek not a God in the same order as Melchizadek. You are just trying to…[Read more]

Mike,We already know that Jesus is theos. We also know the Father is theos. Peter does too. Why shall I spend time proving what we already know?Also, 2 Peter 1:1 cannot faithfully be translated in two ways.

Bo,I haven't put the time and energy into this passage. I believe Jesus' words to be true and read them as such. I found this article that explains your quetions. If you are truly seeking to reconcile this passage then I encourage you to ask people who have studied it to a great degree of consideration. See here for…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2013,06:15)Quote (Lightenup @ July 21 2013,23:10)Mike,you said:Quote So yes, Jesus is the savior that my God Jehovah SENT into the world.  But no, he is not my God.  Only the Father holds that position for me.Can you admit that Peter calls the Son 'our God and Savior, Jesus Christ' in this verse:2 Peter 1:1 From S…[Read more]

Mike,2 Peter 1:1 and 2 Peter 1:13 are both grammatically phrased the same way.2 Peter 1:1http://interlinearbible.org/2_peter/1-1.htm2 Peter 1:11http://interlinearbible.org/2_peter/1-11.htmLet Peter be Peter…you don't have to interfere and twist what he wrote as inspired by the Holy Spirit.You know and admit that Jesus is a theos and you know and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2013,23:37)Kathy,You do realize that Godhead is an archaic term whose original definition was equivalent to what more modern translations use?Kerwin,Whatever…Kerwin. You should be more concerned about the Father and the Son both being in the Godly headship of the church., imo. The principal of Godhead is right there.

Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2013,22:23)Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2013,00:02)Quote (terraricca @ July 22 2013,19:45)Quote (Lightenup @ July 23 2013,05:07)Pierre,Do you agree that sometimes the Father is called Lord and at other places called God/god in the Bible?Do you agree that sometimes the Son is called Lord and at other places called God/god…[Read more]

Mike,Both are correct. Jesus is the only Begotten God and He is the Son of God, His Begetter. They are one…a compound unity.

Bo, I know that they saw Jesus on earth after He ascended to heaven to receive all authority in heaven and on earth. He tells Mary at the tomb not to touch Him because He has not yet ascended to the Father and then tells her to tell His disciples that He is going to the Father. Later, He meets them and tells them that all authority in heaven and…[Read more]