Who is called 'OUR' theos?? Isn't that what matters? Our theos = our Father and Lord Jesus Christ.Jesus said “I and the Father are ONE!”1 + 1 = 1Is that:1a + 1b = 1chmmmmm…I know that goes against the linear Greek way of thinking but…Jesus wasn't speaking Greek here.

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Quote (t8 @ Aug. 24 2013,17:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 23 2013,17:26)That is 1 + 1 = 1LU, did you know that the word GULLLIBLE is the only word with 3 consecutive letter “l”'s?Your argument is with Jesus. He is the one that said:John 10:30″I and the Father are one.”That is 1 + 1 = 1Not even debatable…yet t8 can't see it.t8, would you advise…[Read more]

Hi Lineon,It is nice to see your poems again! I hope you are doing well.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2013,17:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 21 2013,19:19)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:52)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 20 2013,02:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,15:08)So TWO gods, then?  One of whom was WITH the other?You won't get a straight answer here Mike, but the answer is clearly yes.If the…[Read more]

Peter said:Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as oursAnd t8 stumbled all over Jesus the Stone of Stumbling who is Jehovah of hosts after Peter called Him our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Mike,Quote Surely the son to be born is Jesus. And the one whose zeal accomplishes this miracle is Jehovah of hosts.The 'zeal' wasn't referring to the birth. Read the context.

Bo, What I mean about the 'concept of God,' is the understanding of what the word 'God' means. What does the word 'God' mean to you?

Marty,Jesus is OUR God and Savior.2 Peter 1:1From Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ, have been granted a faith just as precious as ours.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,21:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2013,14:03)The particular Stone that Peter identifies as Jesus in 1 Peter 2 and 3 just happens to be the Stone identified as 'Jehovah of hosts' from Isaiah 8.Wrong.Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2013,14:03)Isaiah 8 has Jehovah saying that 'Jehovah of hosts' is the Stone and Peter who…[Read more]

Quote So now the Father is begotten from the son too?One eternal person begotten from the other eternal person.One Son begotten from the Father.Quote So now the Father is begotten from the son too?God is not a Concept and Jesus never toldus to Worship a Concept, did he? If so please give me the verse.Please show me where I said God was a concept.

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2013,20:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 22 2013,07:19)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:52)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 20 2013,02:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,15:08)So TWO gods, then?  One of whom was WITH the other?You won't get a straight answer here Mike, but the answer is clearly yes.If the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 19 2013,20:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 19 2013,00:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 18 2013,11:17)Jesus is the Son of Jehovah of hosts. Where specifically does it say this in the scripture since you imply that it is a scriptural claim?Isaiah 96 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:52)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 20 2013,02:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,15:08)So TWO gods, then?  One of whom was WITH the other?You won't get a straight answer here Mike, but the answer is clearly yes.If the Word is God and the Word was WITH God, then God was WITH God which makes two…[Read more]

I believe in God, Bo. I see the concept of 'God' as having an individual sense and correctly applied to God the Father and our God and Savior Jesus Christ, and also a fuller sense. The fuller sense is the unity of two individual yet interdependent persons with self-existing nature (One eternal person begotten from the other) together with their…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 18 2013,11:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2013,03:23)Jesus is Jehovah of host, that is why He is AlmightyJesus is the Son of Jehovah of hosts.  That is why he is the Son of the Almighty.One of our claims is scriptural, Kathi.  They can't both be.Back to the topic:  Has anyone who likes the translation “and the Word was Go…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2013,16:59)As for Kathi, her table fell over 2 years ago I think. But she has resorted to pretending it is a sound structure. But anyone with common sense wouldn't rest even a cup of coffee on that.Spoken by the man who fulfills the prophecy of stumbling over the stone, Jehovah of hosts who is Jesus our Christ. 1 Peter 2 and 3…[Read more]

Jesus is Jehovah of host, that is why He is Almighty. Any others besides the Father and Son who are called theos are not Jehovah and therefore creatures who are not to be worshiped. Btw, Jesus hung the moon, the Jesus you deny, the Jehovah of hosts, our God and Savior, Jesus Christ. He spread out the heavens with His hands.

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 17 2013,08:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2013,12:04)True or False?2 Samuel 7:22″How great you are, Sovereign LORD! There is no one like you, and there is no God (elohim) but you, as we have heard with our own ears.Kathino one argues that their is only one almighty like Jehovah  God who is above all other gods ,just as the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 17 2013,22:53)When will God's counsel (certain men and angels) be yours too?When the cow jumps over the moon…don't worship the creature, worship the creator, Jehovah, who is God of gods and Lord of lords. Our Father and Lord Jesus Christ.