You are right Pierre, I would not use deceit to try to convince you of anything.

Well, Pierre, you can try to continue to deny the deity of Christ and that salvation is a free gift, not something you earn. However, don't call what you believe as truth.

Too bad Pierre that you can't see what I see and the Christian commentators see as well as the majority that call themselves Christians (you know, those who believe in the deity of Christ).Peter calls Jesus “our God and Savior, Jesus Christ” in 2 Peter 1:1Peter identifies Jehovah of hosts from Isaiah 8 as Jesus in 1 Peter 2 and 3.Jesus is Jehovah…[Read more]

Emmanuel…”God with us”You miss the beauty of Jehovah of hosts of Isaiah 8 becoming flesh-Emmanuel…BECOMING lower than the angels and completely relying on Jehovah, His Father in heaven.It is the gospel that you are not receiving. It is really beautiful and powerful. God, the Son came to tabernacle with us and died according to the flesh for…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2013,21:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2013,08:29)Here is some background music for this thread as ya'll go round and round.Enjoy!kathyand you came and join the merry go round      I'm just one of those amused spectators watching you go in circles…smile for the camera, Pierre! BTW, who is said to be 'our God' in 2 Pe…

Pierre,You are still denying the special God unity of Father and Son…God (in the fullest sense) = Our Father and Lord Jesus Christ together with their Spirit1 John 2:22Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.

Bo,Please don't pretend that the word “God” has only one meaning and is just a proper name. The word “God” can refer to a hunk of wood by some, a mythological figure by others, even a person that people worship or a thing that a person worships. Entertainment, sports, materialistic things…all of these types of things can be a 'God/Gods' to…[Read more]

Who is called 'OUR' theos?? Isn't that what matters? Our theos = our Father and Lord Jesus Christ.Jesus said “I and the Father are ONE!”1 + 1 = 1Is that:1a + 1b = 1chmmmmm…I know that goes against the linear Greek way of thinking but…Jesus wasn't speaking Greek here.

Here is some background music for this thread as ya'll go round and round.Enjoy!

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 24 2013,17:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 23 2013,17:26)That is 1 + 1 = 1LU, did you know that the word GULLLIBLE is the only word with 3 consecutive letter “l”'s?Your argument is with Jesus. He is the one that said:John 10:30″I and the Father are one.”That is 1 + 1 = 1Not even debatable…yet t8 can't see it.t8, would you advise…[Read more]

Hi Lineon,It is nice to see your poems again! I hope you are doing well.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2013,17:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 21 2013,19:19)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:52)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 20 2013,02:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,15:08)So TWO gods, then?  One of whom was WITH the other?You won't get a straight answer here Mike, but the answer is clearly yes.If the…[Read more]

Peter said:Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as oursAnd t8 stumbled all over Jesus the Stone of Stumbling who is Jehovah of hosts after Peter called Him our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Mike,Quote Surely the son to be born is Jesus. And the one whose zeal accomplishes this miracle is Jehovah of hosts.The 'zeal' wasn't referring to the birth. Read the context.

Bo, What I mean about the 'concept of God,' is the understanding of what the word 'God' means. What does the word 'God' mean to you?

Marty,Jesus is OUR God and Savior.2 Peter 1:1From Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ, have been granted a faith just as precious as ours.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,21:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2013,14:03)The particular Stone that Peter identifies as Jesus in 1 Peter 2 and 3 just happens to be the Stone identified as 'Jehovah of hosts' from Isaiah 8.Wrong.Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2013,14:03)Isaiah 8 has Jehovah saying that 'Jehovah of hosts' is the Stone and Peter who…[Read more]

Quote So now the Father is begotten from the son too?One eternal person begotten from the other eternal person.One Son begotten from the Father.Quote So now the Father is begotten from the son too?God is not a Concept and Jesus never toldus to Worship a Concept, did he? If so please give me the verse.Please show me where I said God was a concept.

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2013,20:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 22 2013,07:19)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:52)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 20 2013,02:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,15:08)So TWO gods, then?  One of whom was WITH the other?You won't get a straight answer here Mike, but the answer is clearly yes.If the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 19 2013,20:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 19 2013,00:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 18 2013,11:17)Jesus is the Son of Jehovah of hosts. Where specifically does it say this in the scripture since you imply that it is a scriptural claim?Isaiah 96 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon…[Read more]