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Lightenup replied to the topic Would you take a biblical language course in the forum View Points 12 years, 5 months ago
The two letters are 'aleph' and 'tav.' The translation of the two Hebrew letters into Greek would be 'alpha' and 'omega.'The meaning of the letters in Hebrew have a fuller meaning than just the first and last letter of the alphabet.From what I read, aleph means strength and tav means cross. The reason that you don't know is because you don't know…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2013,19:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2013,15:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,16:12)Also Kathi,You didn't address one of my questions. I wanted to know if “the Word of YHWH” was ever said in the targums to be WITH “YHWH”.In other words, did they ALWAYS change “YHWH” to “the Word of YHWH” – to the point that “YHWH…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2013,18:59)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2013,15:04)From what I can tell, the Father and the Son are in the same classification…the most high classification.And what tells you that? I read that Jesus is the firstborn of a bunch of spirit sons of God. I read that he was the firstborn of all creation, and the beginning o…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternal past existence of the son in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2013,18:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2013,15:14)Mike,Do you honor the Son as much as you honor Gabriel who serves God? If you give the Son more honor, why?I give MORE honor to Jesus than to Gabriel. They are both spirit servants of God who have helped human beings on many occasions, but Jesus is higher-ranking than…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternal past existence of the son in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Dec. 02 2013,17:41)Hi Kathi:And so, how are you going to prove that he always existed as a sentient being? If you have the scriptures that show this, please disclose them.Are you aware that He was the eternal life, the wisdom that the Father possessed in the beginning? Do you need verses…look to Prov. 8:22 and 1 John 1-3 Did…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternal past existence of the son in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2013,14:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2013,03:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,16:18)Yes,Mike would honor the Servant OF God Almighty the same way whether he was born in 2000 BCE, 1885 AD, or somehow “existed” from eternity inside of the God who begot him.He would still deserve the honor of a great SERVANT of God -…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternal past existence of the son in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 02 2013,15:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,20:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 25 2013,17:12)I would still honor him as the Son, Servant, Prophet, Priest, Sacrificial Lamb, Spokesman, and Anointed One OF our one and only MOST HIGH God, Jehovah.So exactly the same way I honor him now. How long he has lived wouldn't change one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternal past existence of the son in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 02 2013,15:55)LU,Was Jesus' body preconceived?No.So are you speaking of preconception of the soul?Kerwin,I didn't say anything was pre-conceived. I used the term 'pre-begotten.' According to a fleshly example, a baby in the womb would be pre-begotten. Begotten is used in the sense of the act of bringing forth from within.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2013,18:59)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2013,15:04)From what I can tell, the Father and the Son are in the same classification…the most high classification.And what tells you that? I read that Jesus is the firstborn of a bunch of spirit sons of God. I read that he was the firstborn of all creation, and the beginning o…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2013,19:11)Quote (tigger2 @ Dec. 01 2013,19:27)Quote 6In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called: Jehovah our righteousness.Jehovah says HIS name shall be called Jehovah our righteousness!! That would be the messiah's name, btw.None of that disproves…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2013,18:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2013,13:42)Quote In his now classic Two Powers in Heaven, Alan Segal examines rabbinic evidence about early manifestations of the “two powers” heresy within Judaism. Segal sheds light upon the development of and relationships among early Christianity, Gnosticism, and Merkabah…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (tigger2 @ Dec. 01 2013,20:27)Quote 6In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called: Jehovah our righteousness.Jehovah says HIS name shall be called Jehovah our righteousness!! That would be the messiah's name, btw.None of that disproves the many facts presented in my last…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Would you take a biblical language course in the forum View Points 12 years, 5 months ago
Pierre,Did you know that there is a word of two letters that is found in many verses of the OT that is non-translatable? The two letters are the first and the last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. Since they are non-translatable, you will not find them translated in the Bibles that you read. You can only find them in the Hebrew scriptures. Jesus…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 12 years, 5 months ago
Where doe is say that He was not willing to offer Himself, Bo?Perhaps it was just the kind of or the extent of torture that He was about to face, not the death itself that He wasn't willing to take. The bigger picture is that He did take something that He didn't want to take because the Father's will was more important than His own.Please answer…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
@tigger2wrong…Jeremiah 235Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.6In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called: Jehovah our…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 01 2013,16:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:10)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 27 2013,05:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 27 2013,07:22)Wakeup,I believe that Jehovah is two powers, one is the Father and one is the Son. Both are called Jehovah together and separately and together they act in complete cooperation and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Would you take a biblical language course in the forum View Points 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,14:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,00:14)So how do you answer the question, Pierre? Do you abide in the one who is our sanctuary and who Jehovah speaks about as Jehovah of hosts in Isa 8 and Peter identifies as Jesus in 1 Peter 2 and 3?Kathywhen we obey to what Jesus said we in fact obey God his and our father…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Would you take a biblical language course in the forum View Points 12 years, 5 months ago
Pierre,My son shared this true story with me the other day. He was explaining to a fellow worker that he ate a half a grapefruit for breakfast. The fellow worker was from a foreign country and questioned why anyone would eat a half of a grape for breakfast. My son knew the word for grapefruit in that person's native language and said the word for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternal past existence of the son in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,16:18)Yes,Mike would honor the Servant OF God Almighty the same way whether he was born in 2000 BCE, 1885 AD, or somehow “existed” from eternity inside of the God who begot him.He would still deserve the honor of a great SERVANT of God – not the honor of the God he serves.Mike,Do you honor the Son as much as you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 27 2013,05:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 27 2013,07:22)Wakeup,I believe that Jehovah is two powers, one is the Father and one is the Son. Both are called Jehovah together and separately and together they act in complete cooperation and interdependency.Jehovah the Father sent Jehovah the Son. Jehovah the Father gave Jehovah the…[Read more]
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