Where doe is say that He was not willing to offer Himself, Bo?Perhaps it was just the kind of or the extent of torture that He was about to face, not the death itself that He wasn't willing to take. The bigger picture is that He did take something that He didn't want to take because the Father's will was more important than His own.Please answer…[Read more]

@tigger2wrong…Jeremiah 235Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.6In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called: Jehovah our…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 01 2013,16:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:10)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 27 2013,05:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 27 2013,07:22)Wakeup,I believe that Jehovah is two powers, one is the Father and one is the Son. Both are called Jehovah together and separately and together they act in complete cooperation and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2013,14:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,00:14)So how do you answer the question, Pierre? Do you abide in the one who is our sanctuary and who Jehovah speaks about as Jehovah of hosts in Isa 8 and Peter identifies as Jesus in 1 Peter 2 and 3?Kathywhen we obey to what Jesus said we in fact obey God his and our father…[Read more]

Pierre,My son shared this true story with me the other day. He was explaining to a fellow worker that he ate a half a grapefruit for breakfast. The fellow worker was from a foreign country and questioned why anyone would eat a half of a grape for breakfast. My son knew the word for grapefruit in that person's native language and said the word for…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,16:18)Yes,Mike would honor the Servant OF God Almighty the same way whether he was born in 2000 BCE, 1885 AD, or somehow “existed” from eternity inside of the God who begot him.He would still deserve the honor of a great SERVANT of God – not the honor of the God he serves.Mike,Do you honor the Son as much as you…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 27 2013,05:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 27 2013,07:22)Wakeup,I believe that Jehovah is two powers, one is the Father and one is the Son. Both are called Jehovah together and separately and together they act in complete cooperation and interdependency.Jehovah the Father sent Jehovah the Son. Jehovah the Father gave Jehovah the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,16:12)Also Kathi,You didn't address one of my questions.  I wanted to know if “the Word of YHWH” was ever said in the targums to be WITH “YHWH”.In other words, did they ALWAYS change “YHWH” to “the Word of YHWH” – to the point that “YHWH Himself” is not even mentioned at all?  Or are there scriptures where they c…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,15:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,08:43)Mike,You confuse something He inherently is with something He does…………Kathi,Your whole post relies on believing that the word “God” describes a SPECIES – of which there are only two members.I agree that Jesus is inherently a “spirit being” like his and our one and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 26 2013,18:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 27 2013,02:25)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 26 2013,13:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,21:09)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2013,17:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,00:11)Wakeup,The unbelieving Jews didn't call the Two Powers of Heaven a heresy until the Second Power was identified as Jesus during…[Read more]

I'm all signed up to learn Hebrew in 2014. My hope is that it helps bring some unity in the truth of the OT and some enlightenment to the mysteries of the NT for myself and the members and readers here. I'm here to serve and I know there is much for me to learn in order to serve better.It is not too late for others to sign up to learn Hebrew or…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 26 2013,13:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,21:09)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2013,17:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,00:11)Wakeup,The unbelieving Jews didn't call the Two Powers of Heaven a heresy until the Second Power was identified as Jesus during the Christian era. That in itself gives the idea more credibility as…[Read more]

Wakeup,I believe that Jehovah is two powers, one is the Father and one is the Son. Both are called Jehovah together and separately and together they act in complete cooperation and interdependency.Jehovah the Father sent Jehovah the Son. Jehovah the Father gave Jehovah the Son. Jehovah the Father is not Jehovah the Son.

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,09:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 25 2013,17:12)I would still honor him as the Son, Servant, Prophet, Priest, Sacrificial Lamb, Spokesman, and Anointed One OF our one and only MOST HIGH God, Jehovah.So exactly the same way I honor him now.  How long he has lived wouldn't change one of those things listed above.Let the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2013,17:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,00:11)Wakeup,The unbelieving Jews didn't call the Two Powers of Heaven a heresy until the Second Power was identified as Jesus during the Christian era. That in itself gives the idea more credibility as possible since they rejected Jesus as their Messiah and showed their lack of…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 25 2013,22:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,04:31)David the reason there are 200 threads about this topic is because the bottom line of all of them is that there are two who are a god that are for us and all the rest are not for us. It is not determined by the 'a' in the coptic translation. So when you or anyone starts a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 25 2013,17:12)I would still honor him as the Son, Servant, Prophet, Priest, Sacrificial Lamb, Spokesman, and Anointed One OF our one and only MOST HIGH God, Jehovah.So exactly the same way I honor him now.  How long he has lived wouldn't change one of those things listed above.Let the reader make note that Mike would…[Read more]

Wakeup,Jesus and the Father are both inherently God.You and your son (if you have one) are both inherently human.So when you say 'God and Jesus' it can be confusing because Jesus is god, the Father is god…both are inherently god. All other gods are not inherently god but acting as god in some manner.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 25 2013,16:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 24 2013,18:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2013,16:43)Kathi,Isn't it you who thinks “the word of God” is often a being?   Aren't those “beings” most likely angels? In fact,  you believe Jesus is sometimes the “angel of YHWH” who is mentioned in the OT, right?  Well, an angel OF Je…[Read more]

So how do you answer the question, Pierre? Do you abide in the one who is our sanctuary and who Jehovah speaks about as Jehovah of hosts in Isa 8 and Peter identifies as Jesus in 1 Peter 2 and 3?