@NickHassan
No other man existed as Jehovah of hosts or anything else before conception. That is only an accomplishment for Jehovah of hosts that Peter identifies as Jesus.

@t8
One does seem pretty foolish when they acknowledge Jesus as a theos but haven’t got a clue as to whom He is a theos to. This is elementary. All creatures bow before Him.

Nick,
you said:

Jesus did not exist before flesh. He was conceived in Mary.

The person existed before conception in Mary which is popularly called the incarnation. Amazing isn’t it!

Nick,
See for yourself where people are learning about God from Paul and some follow him and believe…let him be an example of teaching people about God and witnessing people come to faith through this:

Acts 17:22So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I observe that you are very religious in all respects. 2…[Read more]

Nick,
Please answer:
Please tell me what type of being the Son was before He came in the flesh. Was He an always existent eternal being or a created being?

NIck,
you asked:

Why is knowing ABOUT GOD important?

Faith comes by hearing about God.

Nick,

God is not apart from men so as to be studied theologically.

Nick, men can become a god unto themselves when they believe whatever comes to mind, I can tell you don’t study theology, btw.

God has given us the Bible to study to show ourselves approved. Dig in…

2 Tim 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not…[Read more]

@NickHassan
Only the LORD can adjust your thinking so that you may know and know about Jehovah.

Matt 11:27…no one knows the Father except the Son…

To know an always existent Father would require an always existing relationship with an always existing Son. There was a whole lot of existing going on before the Son became flesh.

@NickHassan

you say:

Becoming an expert about God saves nobody.

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.<span class=”p”>
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It is evident by this verse that “KNOWING” the only true God and Jesus Christ IS ETERNAL LIFE. Being an expert about God is certainly a worthy goal and is…[Read more]

@NickHassan
Do you think it to be theory or truth that there are two persons who are called theos in scripture and are acknowledged to have dominion over all created things for ever and ever?

@NickHassan

What term would you use to represent that authority that has dominion over all created things in heaven, on the earth and under the earth, Nick?

@GeneBalthrop
Hi Gene, I agree that a group of human created gods would be false and not part of a God head. However, maybe you remember that I believe that Jesus was not created but always existed within the Father before the cosmos was created. The Father possessed Him at the beginning of His (the Father’s) way. He has always been around.

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@GeneBalthrop
Hi Gene, I agree that a group of human created gods would be false and not part of a God head. However, maybe you remember that I believe that Jesus was not created but always existed within the Father before the cosmos was created. The Father possessed Him at the beginning of His (the Father’s) way. He has always been around.

What…[Read more]

@boditharta
Hi Bo, it is good to talk with you too! Thanks for your patience 🙂

You write about knowing the only true God and I think that if you knew the only true God, you would know the offspring part of Him also…the one He sent-Jesus. You deny the offspring part of God and cannot truly know God as “the Father,” imo.

you wrote:

When Jesus…

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@boditharta
Hi Bo, it is good to talk with you too! Thanks for your patience 🙂

You write about knowing the only true God and I think that if you knew the only true God, you would know the offspring part of Him also…the one He sent-Jesus. You deny the offspring part of God and cannot truly know God as “the Father,” imo.

you wrote:

When Jesus…

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@wakeup
Sorry wakeup but this is a private debate. Thank you for respecting that.

@t8

Been busy, t8?

Been busy, t8?

@NickHassan

Why would anyone have a problem with the term godhead for two persons who are called theos and share dominion over all creation? No, Nick, no confusion, Rev 5 makes it crystal clear that there are two persons, not just one, that share the dominion over all created things and the two are both referred to as theos.

Thanks for the…[Read more]

@NickHassan

So every THEOS can find a role in your order of things.

Only two who we need to follow, matter to me, Nick. The Father and the Son.