@t8

Please show me the contexts where each person/persons that you claim is called theos and I will be better able to tell you to whom they are theos of. You can do that one person at a time if you like. I am really interested in seeing if you can back up your claims here.

Thanks, t8. I know your time is valuable too. This is an important…[Read more]

@NickHassan

Why do you ask that?

@terraricca

Your answer denies the dominion of the Lamb over all creation. Your argument is with scripture, not with me.

@NickHassan
you say:

But he is not our God

Your Jesus is a created being which leads you to the conclusion that he is not your god. If that were true, that Jesus was merely a created being, you would do well because we are not to worship the creation but instead we are to worship the creator.

The Jesus I believe in is Jehovah of hosts from…[Read more]

@NickHassan
you asked:

Jesus went to His God and our God. Jn 20.17

Who did he ascend to?

The God we call our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ ascended to the God we call God, our Father.

@NickHassan

you said:

We worship one God the Father.

Not those who are WITH HIM.

You will sooner or later worship the God whom is called our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ along with God the Father. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD to the glory of God the Father.

@terraricca,

Try again…I didn’t ask how many are in authority over Jesus. I asked:

So you don’t think that two persons have dominion over all creation for ever and ever?
Rev 5:13
And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all things are in them, heard I saying, Unto him that s…[Read more]

@t8

You can use the term for what I believe “the Jehovah Doctrine” with the understanding that Jehovah is the name of the God of gods and Lord of lords. The Jehovah who is called God our Father and the Jehovah who is called our Lord Jesus Christ both share the dominion over all creation and both share the character, essence and name -Jehovah.

@t8

Go ahead and laugh yourself silly, t8. I don’t even use the term binity to describe what I believe. I also don’t teach that God is two.  I do teach that two who are both called theos in scripture share the dominion over all created things for ever and ever though…you will find that in Rev 5.

@terraricca
So you don’t think that two persons have dominion over all creation for ever and ever?
Rev 5:13
And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all things are in them, heard I saying, Unto him that sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and the honor, and…[Read more]

@NickHassan
you said:

The way to truth is not though weak theology

True…you ought to study God’s Word. In it there is truth.

@NickHassan
Jesus says:
Father, just as you are in me and I am in you.

@NickHassan
you said:

Whatever is OF GOD

is NOT GOD

The true eternal offspring is the same kind of being as His Father…and thus the Son is the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, the invisible God…The only begotten God has come to explain God, His Father.

@NickHassan
you said:

We have one God, the father.

True, and He is with the person who is called theos in scripture, and this theos is who the Christians refer to as our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

@NickHassan
you said:

The Lord of Hosts is the father.

Not in Isaiah
Isaiah 8:12-15
11 For Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof .
13 Je…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,
you asked:

What passages are you using to conclude God has always been a Father?

One of the Son’s name’s is Jehovah of hosts-the topic of this thread. Jehovah means always existent.

@NickHassan
you asked:

Indeed the Word was with God.

Was Jesus???

Yes, before He was given the name Jesus, He was God with God in the beginning.

@t8
Here is a must answer question for you:
Of all the persons who are called theos in scripture, how many have dominion over all creation forever and ever?

If you can answer that correctly, then you will hold on to those persons as being the persons who are called theos who are for us. Paul mentions only two persons who are for us, btw. One is…[Read more]

terraricca,
1.Do you admit that it is written in scriptures that Jesus is called a theos? yes or no
2. Do you admit that it is written in scriptures that every knee will bow to Him and confess that He is Lord to the Glory of God the Father? yes or no
3. Do you admit that it is written in scriptures that every created being will be acknowledging…[Read more]

Hi Nick,
The Word was the Jehovah of hosts that Peter identifies as Jesus who was the eternal life that was with the Father in the beginning. You are missing this.

Rev 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

Here we have the Word of Jehovah identifying Himself as ‘Jehovah’ and being called ‘Lord…[Read more]