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Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Bottom line, although beings, human or otherwise, can and do try to persuade God or man to do something, God will never allow beings to persuade Him to act in a way that is less than perfect love because perfect love, grace and truth fill His heart and His mind so to speak. God has freedom to choose and change His mind but it will ALWAYS…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Bottom line, although beings, human or otherwise, can and do try to persuade God or man to do something, God will never allow beings to persuade Him to act in a way that is less than perfect love because perfect love, grace and truth fill His heart and His mind so to speak. God has freedom to choose and change His mind but it will ALWAYS…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@NickHassan
I believe the duck was a duck, you believe it was a spirit of a duck (whatever that would be). We differ on this. I leave that to the Lord to guide me into truth if I need a different understanding. I will trust Him.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
you said:
To me it is strait forward Jesus was tempted by sin while the one true God cannot be therefore Jesus cannot be God.
Kerwin, from what you said, this is a real hangup for you because you don’t seem to understand this correctly, imo. There is a difference from being tempted to sin from an outside source and feeling tempted to sin…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Nick,
No it is not God’s problem. He is who He is. I’m hoping to know Him better and better as I seek the Father and Son and Spirit without infringing limits upon them. How about you, are you open for them to be different than what you believe now?Lightenup replied to the topic Painful Emotions & Seeking God in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 7 months ago
Hi Brian,
Thanks for your answer. Most who acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah have no problem calling Him their Lord. You didn’t say He was your God though, just your Lord. Thomas called Him both. To the church, He is the head and the Father is the head of Him. He calls His head, God.you said:
He’s part of God
What part? Since He is a Son, t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@t8
you said:There is a ton of assumptions here and little scripture.
I have given you many scriptures over the years. What did I say that you think can not be supported by scripture?
you asked:
Is Eve Adam himself because she walked and talked like a human.
Eve is not Adam and the Son is not the Father. Eve and Adam are however the same…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@NickHassan
The battle is the Lord’s, not mine.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@kerwin
Here are some thoughts in response to your posts today:
you said:We as a kind were made subject to sin because our own sinned so it follows the we as a kind can only be freed by one of our own doing right.
Jesus is the second Adam, the first Adam was also sinless before eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
you also…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
you asked:
An offspring from the one true God and yet is the one true God??
That is not what I said.
An offspring from and a part of the one true God and is the same kind of being as the one true God-eternal being.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
you said:
To me it is strait forward Jesus was tempted by sin while the one true God cannot be therefore Jesus cannot be God.
Did you ever consider that is one of the reasons the person of Jesus had to become a man?
You also said:
We already discussed this and you admitted that it could be a case of Jehovah addressing himself in the…
Lightenup replied to the topic Painful Emotions & Seeking God in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 7 months ago
Hi Brian,
Thank you once again for the encouragement! Furthermore, I could have done a happy dance when I saw that you wrote this: “I lean toward Jesus being part of God, meaning He’s always been in existence. That’s why I capitalize His name. ” You have NOOO idea what a breath of fresh air that was to me!! Amen!
Regarding the Son of Man comm…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Painful Emotions & Seeking God in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 7 months ago
Hi Brian,
Thank you once again for the encouragement! Furthermore, I could have done a happy dance when I saw that you wrote this: “I lean toward Jesus being part of God, meaning He’s always been in existence. That’s why I capitalize His name. ” You have NOOO idea what a breath of fresh air that was to me!! Amen!
Regarding the Son of Man comm…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin,
It is just one of many instances where Jesus is identified as Jehovah, not the only one.
Who is the Lord of lords in the OT?
Who is the Lord of lords in the NT?
Who is the First and the Last in the OT?
Who is the First and the Last in the NT?
Who is the good shepherd in the OT?
Who is the good shepherd in the NT?
Whose name did the…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@Nick
you asked:So we are to deduce that he is a person?
Scripture does not need to tell us?
The Word was with God and was God.Is God a person or two persons by your deductions?
An offspring from the one true God and yet is the one true God??If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, and came from a duck…it is another duck,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Painful Emotions & Seeking God in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 7 months ago
Hi Brian,
Thanks for all the time you have taken today to put your thoughts down. The things you say are interesting to me. I am very interested in becoming a more mature follower of Christ and as healthy in mind, body and spirit as I can be. I particularly like some things you said like:”We must courageously dive into them and conquer fear with…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@NickHassan
Regarding the Word being a person…He appears in visions, He takes Abraham by the hand, He walks, He speaks, etc.
Maybe you think that a message is personified by these terms but I think the person is symbolized by the term “word” since He reveals God’s mind.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@NickHassan
you said:So Jesus Christ to you is an offspring from God?
Heb 7
But without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater.
Yes, the person of Jesus is an offspring of and from the one true God, the Father. The offspring eternally existed with the Father and is a part of the Father. Which makes Him the same type of being as the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@kerwin
Well, my point is that He is speaking of another person and not of Himself in the third person. I understand that at times Jehovah or anyone can speak in third person and it is actually regarding themselves. Our belief system, if incorrect, will blind us to the correct understanding.Lightenup replied to the topic Painful Emotions & Seeking God in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 7 months ago
@Brian
Nice picture!
you said:Thanks for sharing your beliefs without belittling mine, and discussing rather than debating. I greatly appreciate that.
My pleasure. I am glad that you perceived me that way, it is what I hope to achieve but sometimes fail at.
Thank you for your clarification on meditation. I take this away from what you are…[Read more]
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