@Nick
you asked:

So we are to deduce that he is a person?

Scripture does not need to tell us?
The Word was with God and was God.

Is God a person or two persons by your deductions?
An offspring from the one true God and yet is the one true God??

If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, and came from a duck…it is another duck,…[Read more]

Hi Brian,
Thanks for all the time you have taken today to put your thoughts down. The things you say are interesting to me. I am very interested in becoming a more mature follower of Christ and as healthy in mind, body and spirit as I can be. I particularly like some things you said like:”We must courageously dive into them and conquer fear with…[Read more]

@NickHassan
Regarding the Word being a person…He appears in visions, He takes Abraham by the hand, He walks, He speaks, etc.
Maybe you think that a message is personified by these terms but I think the person is symbolized by the term “word” since He reveals God’s mind.

@NickHassan
you said:

So Jesus Christ to you is an offspring from God?

Heb 7

But without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater.

Yes, the person of Jesus is an offspring of and from the one true God, the Father. The offspring eternally existed with the Father and is a part of the Father. Which makes Him the same type of being as the…[Read more]

@kerwin
Well, my point is that He is speaking of another person and not of Himself in the third person. I understand that at times Jehovah or anyone can speak in third person and it is actually regarding themselves. Our belief system, if incorrect, will blind us to the correct understanding.

@Brian
Nice picture!
you said:

Thanks for sharing your beliefs without belittling mine, and discussing rather than debating. I greatly appreciate that.

My pleasure. I am glad that you perceived me that way, it is what I hope to achieve but sometimes fail at.

Thank you for your clarification on meditation. I take this away from what you are…[Read more]

Hi Brian,
you said:

Meditation is about focusing on absolutely nothing at all for the purpose of anchoring a person in their body and in the present moment.

That seems like a contradiction of thought…allow me to paraphrase so you can see how I perceived your definition of meditation -focus on nothing at the same time focus on…[Read more]

@Brian

Amen to these good words of yours:

When a person says “Yes” to someone’s request, but they really don’t want to say yes, they’ve just said “No” in their heart, but then acted against their true nature by saying “Yes.” It’s peer pressure. Happens all the time with us. So, when we can say “no” in our heart and “no” with our mouths to…

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@kerwin,

Great, I appreciate your willingness to consider another view. It is refreshing.

Nick,

I rely on the entire scriptures and they agree with a right worship of the Father and Son as those who are due the glory and dominion over all creation for ever and ever. I have used many verses over the years here as ‘witness’ to this. Thanks for asking though.

@t8

The only true God, the Father, has a part of Him that is just like Him as offsprings always are. Hebrew names, from what I understand, reflect some significant character, feature, or purpose from what I have read and the name Jehovah reflects a state of being…an always existent state of being and that sets Him apart from all created beings…[Read more]

@t8

The only true God, the Father, has a part of Him that is just like Him as offsprings always are. Hebrew names, from what I understand, reflect some significant character, feature, or purpose from what I have read and the name Jehovah reflects a state of being…an always existent state of being and that sets Him apart from all created beings…[Read more]

Hi Brian,

Thank you for your gentle approach here, it is much needed! What you are writing about regarding the Presence Process sounds like developing a practice of meditating on God, His word and His love. Is that correct? I don’t think that can be wrong as long as our mind’s eye is on Him in truth. I don’t see how it would be good to be…[Read more]

@NickHassan
The Word that was with God was a person, the person of Jesus-the Only begotten Son who much later became a man. He wasn’t always a man. You would do well to be able to discern between all who are called theos and make a distinction between who has dominion over all creation and who does not. Rev 5 tells you that two have dominion over…[Read more]

@NickHassan

you said:

The Lord God of Israel is the Lord of the angelic hosts in the OT.

The anointed man from Nazareth is now given this authority.

Jehovah is the Lord God of Israel and Jehovah is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords. Jesus is the theos who is the Lord of lords. The Father is the theos who is the God of gods.

The title…[Read more]

@kerwin
Did you see in the Isaiah 8 passage that Jehovah is speaking of Jehovah of hosts as if He is someone else other than Himself? The other person that Jehovah calls Jehovah of hosts is the stone of offense, not faith. Peter ties that stone to be Jesus, not faith. In both passages, the subject is a person that is the stone, not faith.

@kerwin

Great, give it consideration. This understanding is common among Christians throughout Christendom.

@terraricca,

Is the ruler not a ruler if he is standing? He is only a ruler if he is sitting? hogwash

Hi Kerwin,

You see Jesus just as a created man. I see Jesus as being God with God from the beginning. The Father through the Son created all things INCLUDING ALL AUTHORITIES. The benefit of having the Father and the Son as the full protective authority was severed by man’s free will to choose to make other authorities and mankind was severed from…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,

Thank you for your question.

From what I understand, Jesus is the only begotten God as Jehovah of Hosts which is someone other than Jehovah in the context of Isaiah 8:12-15 which Peter refers to.

Isaiah 8:12-15
11 Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye…[Read more]