@lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
Hi Gene,
Do you believe that the angels have some type of body? If so, what type?
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
@kerwin
Do you anticipate your mortal body to be changed into an immortal body but still ‘house’ your person after you die?Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
@kerwin
you said:His body is already the descendant of David and therefore cannot be God kind. So all that is left is the spirit and soul.
Why do you believe that a heavenly being cannot supernaturally become flesh if it is God’s purpose?
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is HE, what is HIS name? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@Spock
Thanks for your reply.you said:
I believe the Son is an eternal, divine spiritual being of the order of Creator Sons.
And how many eternal Creator Sons do you believe exist?
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
@kerwin
you said:In short god = child of God
Well, I totally disagree with your equation there!
Please answer each question:
1. Based on what you claim, do you refer to Jesus as god?
2. Is Baal a child of God because he is a god to some?
3. Are Jesus’ brethren all children of God? Where does Jesus call His brethren “god/gods?”Lightenup replied to the topic Who is HE, what is HIS name? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@Spock,
If someone responds to you by hitting reply, I think the response goes somewhere other than on this thread. It goes to your profile activity area, I think…If you put the @ before the name of the person that you are responding to instead of hitting the reply tab, the person gets notified that you mentioned them. It is a new system and I…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Let US make man in OUR image. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@gunstar54
Hi! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. We may be on the same page here 🙂
I believe that Prov. 8 speaks about the person of Jesus also. In fact, I believe that on day one of creation when God said “Let there be Light” it was perhaps the announcement of that event of Him bringing the Son forth, His begettal. Anyway, I believe that it has…[Read more]Lightenup posted a new activity comment 11 years, 6 months ago
Hi Wakeup,
I never said He was a creature, in fact I believe He was not created but always existed as the offspring within the Father and then before creation, was brought forth from within the Father. I believe that ‘Let there be Light’ was the announcement of this most significant event. Realize this, that even man exists before they become a…[Read more]Lightenup posted a new activity comment 11 years, 6 months ago
Wakeup,
He was the firstborn over all creation. That implies sonship. It was in that position that He created all things. So obviously the Son was there before man.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
The disciples called Jesus, Lord and God. Jesus never called them that. Factor that in. God also called Him ‘God.’
I’m glad that you see Him as your brother because that is a big part of the gospel…Him as a heavenly being and then becoming flesh is a huge part of the plan. You miss Him as the heavenly being that came in the flesh and you cannot…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
The disciples called Jesus, Lord and God. Jesus never called them that. Factor that in. God also called Him ‘God.’
I’m glad that you see Him as your brother because that is a big part of the gospel…Him as a heavenly being and then becoming flesh is a huge part of the plan. You miss Him as the heavenly being that came in the flesh and you cannot…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Jesus – LORD God – the evidence. in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
@kerwin
This guy seems knowledgeable enough to analyze Westcott and Hort and what they did and their intentions as he quotes their own words in these videos:
Battle of the Bibles – http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/125/213-232K/Changing the Word – http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/126/214ab-232K/
Have you seen these, kerwin? You really oug…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Let US make man in OUR image. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Hi Spock, are you a member of the Jehovah Witness religion?
Lightenup replied to the topic Let US make man in OUR image. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@wakeup
you said:Your analogy contradicts God’s own words.
I disagree that my analogy contradicts God’s own words. If I agreed then I would not hold on to my understanding. Let me demonstrate this to you in the verses that you wrote down as supposed evidence of contradiction:
Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is NO S…
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
you said:
According to you God is Jesus’ Father because Jesus is the same kind as him.
I wouldn’t say it like that exactly. I would say it this way:
Jesus is God’s only authentic son which would naturally make Him of the same kind as His father. Being the ONLY authentic son sets Him apart from all others that are called sons of God w…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
you said:
According to you God is Jesus’ Father because Jesus is the same kind as him.
I wouldn’t say it like that exactly. I would say it this way:
Jesus is God’s only authentic son which would naturally make Him of the same kind as His father. Being the ONLY authentic son sets Him apart from all others that are called sons of God w…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Jesus – LORD God – the evidence. in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
Hi Carmel,
you said:THE WORD WAS GOD!
THE WORD IS THE SON!
SO THE WORD IS GOD THE SON
JESUS IS THE SON!
SO JESUS IS GOD THE SON!
I agree…it is completely simple to understand that!
Lightenup replied to the topic Jesus – LORD God – the evidence. in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
@AWHN
Hi and thanks for your list of links. I watched the first two videos…eye openers for me on the corruption of texts. Wow, I didn’t realize that Westcott and Hort were out to diminish the deity of Christ when they wrote their skewed Greek manuscript. That explains a lot. Just look at the difference here between these same verses:1 Timothy…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Let US make man in OUR image. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Welcome Gunstar54! I’m Lightenup. What is your view on the plurality?
Lightenup replied to the topic Let US make man in OUR image. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Hi wakeup et al,
I understand the Son as the eternal offspring PART of the one true God, the Father. As offsprings naturally are, He is the same type of being as the Father which makes two persons who have the same attributes and same eternalness of the highest sort. When God appears as one person, the Son is right there as a part of His whole…[Read more]- Load More


Hi Lighten up.
Unfortunately there was no Son of God When God said;
Let us create man in our image.
So try again.
wakeup.
Hi Princess.
Did not God say : Beside ME there is no GOD, and no SAVIOUR? (and no off spring business).
The question is still not answered. Who is us?
wakeup.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
He was the firstborn over all creation. That implies sonship. It was in that position that He created all things. So obviously the Son was there before man.
Hi Lightenup.
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
We know that the creator can not be a creature. To interpret the creator being a creature is wrong.
The man Jesus is the first born
from the dead. The first man resurrected in spirit form.
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the…[Read more]
Hi Wakeup,
I never said He was a creature, in fact I believe He was not created but always existed as the offspring within the Father and then before creation, was brought forth from within the Father. I believe that ‘Let there be Light’ was the announcement of this most significant event. Realize this, that even man exists before they become a…[Read more]