@lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic Did Jesus go to hell after he died in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 6 months ago
Bring on your first question, not all at once. We will start there, terraricca.
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 6 months ago
@t8
If there is an always existent Father, then an always existent Son is implied. The two are interdependent.You seem to think that the Father is and was God apart from the Son, I do not agree. I believe that the Father as God of gods is dependent on the existence of the Son and the Son as Lord of lords is dependent on the existence of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 6 months ago
@t8
If there is an always existent Father, then an always existent Son is implied. The two are interdependent.You seem to think that the Father is and was God apart from the Son, I do not agree. I believe that the Father as God of gods is dependent on the existence of the Son and the Son as Lord of lords is dependent on the existence of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did Jesus go to hell after he died in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 6 months ago
This is why we say you cannot be ‘us’ even by your own admission.
You preach another gospel.
Glad you realize that and see a distinction.
I would rather be with the ‘us’ that has both, the ‘God of gods’ and the ‘Lord of lords’, the one and mighty God-Jehovah who IS both.
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@t8
you said:So if Jesus is God because he has power over us, then does Jesus have power over God? You clearly said no. Jesus is not the one true God by your own admission. Rather, he is in submission to God.
Where was it that you asked me if Jesus had power ‘over God’ and where was it that I said that Jesus didn’t have power over God…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
you asked:If scripture is divine communication can we improve on it?
We are not to add to the truth of scripture but it is fruitful to explain it. Jesus did many times.
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
ahh Nick…when explaining things to humans, would you use non-human terms. Wouldn’t that be a bit fruitless?
Lightenup replied to the topic Did Jesus go to hell after he died in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 6 months ago
@t8
The logos is a sentient person and always has been and always will be. When begotten that person created the universe. You are right that the one who begat Him was not diminished after the begetting. They remain interdependently existent.Lightenup replied to the topic Did Jesus go to hell after he died in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 6 months ago
“IF” WE CAN GO FAR WITH THAT WORD ,BUT NOT IN THE TRUTH ,
Prove it terraricca. Were you there at the time? If not, then you really don’t know if it is true or not, do you?
You have many questions. Pick one for starters, ok.
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
The duck is quacking but you aren’t listening to it for yourself, you re just mimicking your teachers hoping they got the sound right and copying it.
Does that make you feel better when you belittle those who understand Christ differently than you?
Have you considered this:
Matt 7
2For you will be treated as you treat others.a The…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Terraricca,
You are right, men of God act differently than those who do not believe that Jesus is more powerful than they are.Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
Actually, God the Son, is a term that helps a person distinguish who is being spoken about between God the Father and His Son. It is quite helpful and it’s ok to say, btw. It is no longer a mystery.Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@Anastas
Jesus is God the Son, not God the Father. He is exactly like the Father in attributes and has been given creation, which He created, btw, to be Lord to. Even God the Father calls Him “God” and identifies Him as Jehovah. Peter also identifies Him as Jehovah of hosts. Jehovah is God of gods and Lord of lords. Jesus is identified as Lord of…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Did Jesus go to hell after he died in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 6 months ago
@terraricca
You can’t prove that didn’t happen as Nicodemus wrote…so you merely assume that it is a lie because it doesn’t support your Christology. I tell you what…your opinion doesn’t make it false. You have to have more than an your opinion. The Bible does speak of an event that dead people had risen from the dead and walked around the town…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Did Jesus go to hell after he died in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 6 months ago
@GeneBalthrop
I dont use a Catholic Bible. You are mistaken in nearly everything you wrote in your post except that Jesus, according to the flesh is from the seed of David through His mother Mary. That is where He, being the Son of God from eternity, became also a son of man. His first birth was without mother, His second birth was without earthly…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 6 months ago
@bodhitharta
You are right, God is not a man, that is why God the Son had to become a man because He wasn’t one already. He became one supernaturally. Don’t try to understand it because it isn’t something that can naturally happen. Just accept it…it was necessary to conquer the hold of sin.You say that He can’t be 100% God and 100% man. I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@GeneBalthrop
I worship the one true Jehovah God who is both God of gods and Lord of lords. Jesus is identified as the Lord of lords. It is only right that I should worship Him too. You do not understand the manner in which Jesus is Lord of lords.Does Jesus have power over you, Gene? Please answer this question.
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@terraricca
Since you deny that Jesus is your god, are you saying that you have power over Jesus then? It is your words that says this: “anything that has power OVER YOU he’s your god ; the funny thing of it , is that we make it up for ourselves.”I ask again, does Jesus have power over you?
Yes
or
No
Please answer the question.Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
@terraricca
Since you deny that Jesus is your god, are you saying that you have power over Jesus then? It is your words that says this “anything that has power OVER YOU he’s your god ; the funny thing of it , is that we make it up for ourselves.”I ask again, does Jesus have power over you?
Yes
or
No
Please answer the question.Lightenup replied to the topic Did Jesus go to hell after he died in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 6 months ago
@NickHassan
Are you threatened by those who look to the cross as the tree of life since on it Jesus destroyed the power of death?- Load More

