@t8

I don’t buy this whole idea that females are less important to God. I buy it with some cultures in the world, but not the Kingdom of God.

I agree t8! For instance, a woman can equally receive the Holy Spirit and ‘of’ the Holy Spirit just as a man can. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are for all (regardless of gender) who make Jesus LORD of t…[Read more]

@bodhitharta
From what I can tell, the ‘divine always existent Son’ always perfectly honors and glorified His Father and His Father perfectly honors and glorifies His Son. There is no need for religious worship within their relationship. The Son wasn’t created by anyone and has no need for another being to save Him.

When the pre-existent Son, the…[Read more]

The incarnation was initiated by the Most High God before the foundations of the world, the prophets of God foretold the event many years before it took place, the angels in heaven announced it and rejoiced the night our Messiah was born. People all over the world remember and celebrate the greatest gift that God has given mankind…

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The incarnation was initiated by the Most High God before the foundations of the world, the prophets of God foretold the event many years before it took place, the angels in heaven announced it and rejoiced the night our Messiah was born. People all over the world remember and celebrate the greatest gift that God has given…[Read more]

It is always unfortunate to read about those who adore Jesus Christ that try to make Christmas about a pagan holiday. There is plenty of evidence that taking Christ out of Christmas is an error of information and lack of research. The celebration of Christmas has spread the miraculous story of Christ’s incarnation throughout the world. As…[Read more]

Bo, it indicates that one is the unbegotten God and the other is a part of that unbegotten God as the offspring. You cannot worship the unbegotten God without worshiping the begotten God also.

The Father loves the Son and the worship of His Son is required for true worship of Himself. We will worship in spirit and in TRUTH. It is not truth to…[Read more]

Bo, it indicates that one is the unbegotten God and the other is a part of that unbegotten God as the offspring. You cannot worship the unbegotten God without worshiping the begotten God also.

@bodhitharta
you asked:

So Jehovah is more like an office like Christ?

I would say that Jehovah is an always existent entity.

So Melchezidek and Jesus also share a office/priesthood?

No they don’t share an office/priesthood but they both were a king and a priest, a priest in a way that did not come from their lineage. Jesus was from the tribe of…[Read more]

@bodhitharta

The unity of the two persons of Jehovah is represented by the singular pronoun “He/Him” in some contexts. The church is like this also. There can be many churches in an community but ultimately they are a part of the one church in which Christ is the Head. The church is even called ‘she’ as in a singular noun, even though it is made…[Read more]

@GeneBalthrop
This is a closed discussion between Bodhitharta and myself. Use the private message feature if you need to comment to me, thank you.

@bodhitharta

You asked for evidence of Jesus being prayed to:

Acts 7:59

They continued to stone Stephen while he prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!”

Also, you asked:

Regarding your “no other theos” statements you seem to miss the point: Jesus said that there was only ONE TRUE THEOS and The Father said HE is THE ONE GOD and there is NO…

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@t8

Would you please delete the comments of bodhitharta and terraricca as they are not allowed here according to the specifications of a private discussion such as this, thanks.

Bodhitharta and terraricca please respect the guidelines.

@bodhitharta

Well hello Bo, I hope you are doing well!

How is Jesus as theos different from others who are called theos (other than the Father)?

The disciples prayed to Jesus and none of the others who are called theos (other than the Father).

No other theos (other than the Father) can forgive the sins of mankind.

No other theos (other than…[Read more]

@t8

My answer stands as is. If you think that there is only one true unbegotten God who we call the Father and only one true begotten God whom we call the Son, then just say that you agree to that. If not, then show me how you disagree and why.

@t8

I have to call this one out. You do not believe that the Father is the only true God. You believe that he along with Jesus is.

But this one true God spoken of here sent his son.

You clearly do not believe this important scripture and truth that is eternal life.

I believe the Father is the only true unbegotten God and the Son is the only…[Read more]

@t8
you said:

If Jesus is Wisdom, then he was brought forth and previous to that, wisdom resided in God as an attribute of God. But just as important is that when wisdom was brought forth, it did not take away from the wisdom that God has. The same line of thinking was espoused by a number of early church fathers with respect to logos. One fire…

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It is very interesting to me to see how John 1:18 is so alarming to those who admit that Jesus is called theos as the Word in John 1:1. The early church fathers testified to the Word being called ‘God’ and that the Word was God the Son who became flesh from John 1 and was ‘wisdom’ that was begotten before things were formed on the earth from Prov…[Read more]

@Spock

agreed.

@kerwin
I used the NASB.
The phrase “who is in the bosom of the Father” seems to indicate a position of intimacy but I am not sure.

@t8
you said:

Wisdom, logos, life, love, charity, mercy, truth, and light are attributes of God. Sometimes they are spoken of in a feminine sense when referring to God’s own attributes.

So when the God of the living begat Wisdom, he became the workMAN at God’s side.

First off, your conclusion about the reason things like wisdom and life are fem…[Read more]