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Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Welcome back AndrewAD!
It has been a while. I don’t really remember what your Christology is, so forgive me for my lack of memory…
You don’t remember my Christology either from what you wrote in your post. Arians, although they believe in the pre-existence of the Son, they believe that there was a time when the Son ‘was not’ in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 2 months ago
Hey Gene…over here… š
Lightenup replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 2 months ago
Seems to me that commandment number one is speaking about Yahweh, the God of gods and the Lord of lords. Jesus is the Lord of lords. We have one God and one Lord, the great and mighty God Yahweh. I bow down and serve both the Father and the Son. Every knee shall bow…
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Can God the Father create the beginning of the creation of God in the beginning of the creation of God if the beginning of the creation of God did not yet exist?
Hint: Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. He was already there before the first thing was created and we know from John 1:3 that nothing was made without Jesus already in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Hi AndrewAD
Do you believe that the Father created the world alone or through Jesus?
Lightenup posted an update 11 years, 2 months ago
@GeneBalthrop Hi Gene, here is our discussion thread:
https://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-and-genebalthrop-only/
See you there.Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 2 months ago
@Anastas
We possibly agree, although you probably forgot a comma which would mean we don’t agree.
You said:The main thing is to recognize who the true God is, that is to say the Father and the one He sent, the Christ.
I would agree if you were saying that the true God is the Father and Christ. You may have missed a comma, idk.
Also, the wisdom…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 2 months ago
@Anastas
you said:The main thing is to recognize who the true God is, that is to say the Father and the one He sent, the Christ.
Agreed…touche’! š š š
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@tigger, you are trying to tell us that the creator created the beginning of the creation of God through the beginning of the creation of God. That is not possible. That is why you have to add ‘the rest of’ to ‘He created creation’ in your response. Btw, how could He create ‘in the beginning’ if the beginning did not already exist?
Gen 1:1 In the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
@tigger, you are trying to tell us that the creator created the beginning of the creation of God through the beginning of the creation of God. That is an not possible. That is why you have to add ‘the rest of’ to ‘He created creation’ in your response. Btw, how could He create ‘in the beginning’ if the beginning did not already exist?
Gen 1:1 In…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Here in God’s word, lies proof of the eternal past existence of Jesus, the Son of God.
Rev 3:14
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.
Think about this…
Before the first created thing, there had to be some creative presence…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Here in God’s word, lies proof of the eternal past existence of Jesus, the Son of God.
Rev 3:14
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.
Think about this…
Before the first created thing, there had to be some creative presence…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 2 months ago
Here in God’s word, lies proof of the eternal past existence of Jesus, the Son of God.
Rev 3:14
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;<span class=”p”>
</span>Think about this…
Before the first created thing, there had to be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 2 months ago
Does Jesus have power over you, t8? If so, is it less powerful over you than the power of anyone else? If so, please explain.
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 2 months ago
@t8
Wow, you wasted a lot of time on that post to try to show me that I really believe something that I don’t believe-you even know I don’t believe that Jesus is not Jehovah as the Lord of lords.you said:
Thus you ask him to believe Jesus is God based on a wrong assumption if you believe his assumption is wrong that is.
I don’t believe the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 2 months ago
@Anastas
Yes I realize that Prov 8:22 is translated in several different ways. Only one way was meant. I believe that ‘possessed’ is more consistent with the wisdom of God rather than acquired or created. In Prov 8 after v. 22 scholars often suggest that it could be referring to Jesus in a figurative way. The Jews think it is the torah. We really…[Read more]Lightenup posted an update 11 years, 2 months ago
@GeneBalthrop Go here Gene for our closed discussion. I’m looking forward to it.
https://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-and-genebalthrop-only/#post-788737Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 2 months ago
Hi Gene,
Thanks for agreeing to discuss with me here in this closed discussion. I hope that it will be fruitful and educational for us both. This is not a debate to determine a winner and a loser. We both win if we both learn truth from God. Lets address one question at a time, and lets take turns asking the questions, ok? You ask one, I answer…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 2 months ago
Hi Gene,
Thanks for agreeing to discuss with me here in this closed discussion. I hope that it will be fruitful and educational for us both. This is not a debate to determine a winner and a loser. We both win if we both learn truth from God. Lets address one question at a time, and lets take turns asking the questions, ok? You ask one, I answer…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 2 months ago
Hello all, this thread is a closed discussion between myself and GeneBalthrop. Please do not comment here. If you do, your comments will likely be deleted.
Thank you for respecting the purpose of this thread.
Lightenup
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