@lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Seems like you has no contest of what was last posted. It would be wise to accept this, t8 instead of hoping it will go away and be forgotten about, don’t you think?!
I am memorizing the first several verses in 2 Peter 1. This is a good verse, want to hide it in your heart too?
2 Peter 1 1Simeona Peter, a servantb and apostle of Jesus…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Been busy with out of town guests, Gene. Will reply soon. Thanks for your patience!
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo, the God of gods glorified the Lord of lords and the Lord of lords glorifies the God of gods. They serve each other.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Various crowns will be given after the bodily resurrection, Bo. Realize that judgements can be both good and bad.
http://www.breadoflifebiblestudy.com/Lessons/19Judgment/Articles/JudgmemtSeat6.pdf
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
@boditharta
I was pointing out that there were events that happened during eternity before creation.
For example:
God chosen…
God ordained…
The actions of choosing and ordaining took place before creation.
The action of begetting a Son took place before creation also, it had to in order for the Son to make creation.
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo,
you said:In the beginning was the Word…..Exactly this is how you know this verse is not talking something outside of it’s context which was THE BEGINNING of the Gospel, this is not the SAME beginning as in Genesis.
It is the same beginning as in Genesis since the writer continues speaking about creation see the rest of the passage which fol…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo,
you said:In the beginning was the Word…..Exactly this is how you know this verse is not talking something outside of it’s context which was THE BEGINNING of the Gospel, this is not the SAME beginning as in Genesis.
Yes, it is the same beginning as in Genesis since the writer continues speaking about creation.
You said “Time is relat…
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo
you said:Oh and one more thing: Jesus says John 15:15
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.Jesus is the SERVANT of GOD….God is his LORD….Jesus does not know what his Lord doeth…He does not k…
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo
you said:Oh and one more thing: Jesus says John 15:15
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.Jesus is the SERVANT of GOD….God is his LORD….Jesus does not know what his Lord doeth…He does not k…
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
@bodhitharta
you said:Plus LU you keep assuming that the word Lord means divine so lets see:
There is a reason for that 🙂
John 18:36
Jesus replied, “My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my servants would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish authorities. But as it is, my kingdom is not…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
@bodhitharta
you said:Plus LU you keep assuming that the word Lord means divine so lets see:
There is a reason for that 🙂
John 18:36
Jesus replied, “My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my servants would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish authorities. But as it is, my kingdom is not…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
@ NickHassan
Yes, I am part of the “we” since I believe that Jehovah is the one God, the Father and the one Lord, Jesus Christ.Before Jesus became the Messiah, He was not a man but a creator of man with His Father. When He became a man according to his flesh, He was anointed as the Messiah.
May God bless you with a fuller revelation of Himself, Nick.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Yes, He is going to raise the bodies and judge the believers with the judgement at the “The Judgment Seat of Christ.”
The Judgment Seat of Christ
The first future judgment derives its name from two passages where the term “Judgment Seat of Christ” appears:
For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ (Romans 14:10).
For we mus…
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
@NickHassan
The Lord is the Spirit. We have one Lord, Jesus Christ.Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
@t8
For the Christians, there is one God the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ which together make up the one True God in His fullest sense as Jehovah the God of gods and the Lord of lords.you asked:
In the beginning was the Word.
Since when does eternity have a beginning
Eternity has an eternal beginning and in that beginning, God created…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
you asked:
So “Today I have begotten you” means there was a point in time in which he was begotten, right?
Time is relative as to who’s perspective you are referring to, man’s or God’s. The day the Son was begotten was a specific event which happened before creation. He existed before this event in a pre-begotten state.
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
@ bodhitharta
Remember this regarding how the Son is God, different from others who might be called god.
How is Jesus as theos different from others who are called theos (other than the Father)?
The disciples prayed to Jesus and none of the others who are called theos (other than the Father).
No other theos (other than the Father) can forgive…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick
you asked:You use intellectual arguments to try to understand what is spiritual?
I use the New Testament of God to explain the Old Testament. You do realize that the NT sheds light on the OT, don’t you, Nick.
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
@bodhitharta
Hebrews 5:5 doesn’t have the word ‘father’ in the Greek so it doesn’t literally say what you quoted. Here is a more literal translation:
5So also Christ did not glorify Himself so as to become a high priest, but He who said to Him,
“YOU ARE MY SON,
TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU”;Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick
you said:Part of God yet distinct from God?
Sounds like mystery babylon.
Every son I have is a part of me yet distinct from me. Doctors usually understand this about sons.
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