Hi Nick,

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Nick wrote:

2 Cor 13.1 is the way the bible recommends, and there are two or three witnesses to that verse

Me:

Let me quote the scriptures you referred to.

 Duet 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put t…[Read more]

Anyway, good by and God bless you all,

Lester

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

So when you do not find scripture saying exactly what you believe,

you can know you are still right?

Is that not lawlessness?

Me:

You connect the dots.  I have not found anyone, especially you,  finding three scriptures that say almost the same thing.

Anyway, we are making much ado about nothing.  Anyway, I think I’ll ab…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

So you were in error.

Jesus Christ is not his birth name.

Me:

Ok, so what?  That is the name we know him by from when he was young and before his anointing in the Jordan River.  By the way, the scripture doesn’t say explicitly that he was anointed, does it? But I can go along with he was.

Hi Nick:

You

You showed us prophetic verses about the anointed one and claim they tell us he was anointed before birth?

Where is the order in all of this

?

Me:

I said what God foreordains, it is true in his mind as if it already has happened.  So it already has happened.

Hi Nick:

Put scriptures together to find a point?

Such patchwork quilting of verses has led to major errors.

2 Cor 13.1 is the way the bible recommends, and there are two or three witnesses to that verse.

Me:

You don’t have to put two verses together that say the same thing but relate to the overall discussion.

You haven’t show me three witnesses.

Hi Nick:

You wrote:

Acts 10

..Jesus of Nazareth was ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER…

You said that he was foreknown, called, chosen, consecrated…

None of those definitions include the Holy Spirit.

Me:

They all do.  I had shown you.

Nick wrote:

You think because God is his real father he MUST HAVE had the Holy Spirit before birth?

Why do you trust logic and inference so much?

Find it written please.

Me:

I have shown you all the scriptures and put them together for you.  You want explicit scriptures that say exactly what you seek–doesn’t happen often when seeking deeper…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You said:

You say

JESUS CHRIST WAS HIS BIRTH NAME.???

Matt.1.25

..and he called his name Jesus.

Me: Come on Nick, we are all called by our birth names. Let’s try to find the truth, not just to be right.

Hi Nick:

You wrote:

Yes God planned the anointing. That is not ANOINTING.

Kings and prophets He planned to anoint as well, then He did so.

We know that Jeremiah was consecrated and appointed before his birth,

and that John the Baptist was filled with the Spirit in Elizabeth’s womb.

Scripture does not say such things about Jesus so we do…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

Acts 10 tells us that JESUS OF NAZARETH WAS ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER.

Not the unnamed embryo or the infant or the child Jesus.

The anointing is always manifested.

Such manifestations only occurred after the Jordan.

You seem to be speaking from sort of theological base here.

Me:

You got to be kidding…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

The anointing was DONE IN THE MIND OF GOD.

Any scriptures for this kind of anointing?

Me:

Read your statement below.

Yes the PROPHETIC WORD in Ps 45, and Isaiah, which Jesus quoted in the temple tell of the ANOINTING of the servant Jesus.

‘The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because He anointed me to preach the go…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

PREORDAINED does not mean ANOINTED.

Me:

Yes, Ok.  But God always thinks before he does something.  Sometimes anointing is preordained–sometimes not.  But God does not do anything rashly without thinking or planning.

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

Called does not mean anointed

Chosen does not mean anointed

Foreknown does not mean anointed.

Me:

This is what you think, not what you have proven.

When one is anointed or consecrated by God, he is called and chosen by God for a particular purpose. God foreknew who would be anointed in real…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

Those in Christ are raised in the first resurrection.

1000 years later the rest of humanity is raised to face the sheep and goat judgement.

This is a judgement of works all all that matters is how they treated those in Jesus Christ to live or die.

Those in Christ face the tribunal of Christ. 2cor 5.10.

Ths is expanded in Matt…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You wrote:

TC….IF YOU READ Issiah where that was quoted from , you will find it was a sign to the King of Judah, to show the king that God was with him, to deliever them from the invading armies.

The only way GOD was with us was he through the anointing spirit JESUS recieved at the Jordan river, now that Spirit which was GOD M WAS F…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

You say

‘Anointed by God means called for a special purpose by God’

Any scriptural evidence for this statement?

When the prophets and kings were anointed was this just a calling?

Me:

https://www.compellingtruth.org/anointed.html

From the Author:

In the New Testament, we are told God anointed Jesus with the Holy Spi…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

In the foreknowledge of God and in prophecy the Christ was known.

But the human vessel was conceived in Mary, cleansed by obedience to the Word

Me:

Nope, the messiah grew in the spirit, but was not cleansed.  He did not have sin.  It was his death that cleansed us.

Nick:

and then anointed as Christ at the J…[Read more]

Correction:

Me: The saints in the first resurrection do not receive judgment, they have passed from death unto life.  They receive robes to put on their new bodies.

Hi Nick:

You stated:

In post 4832067 on 6 July you said that the prophets of old were baptised in the Spirit after the resurrection of Christ.

Do the anointed need anointing and is is written?

In another post you said the souls of the saved were in heaven.

The only mention of souls in heaven is in revelation when souls are said to be under…[Read more]