Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Nick,
You quoted me:
“Saints (both Jew and gentile) take precedence over the physical nation of Israel.
1 Thes 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
Comment:
Two groups of saints:
Those alive in the body at his coming
Those…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony and All,
Saints (both Jew and gentile) take precedence over the physical nation of Israel.
1 Thes 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
Comment:
Two groups of saints:
Those alive in the body at coming
Those…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony and All
Matt 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony and All,
Heb 11:37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And these all, having…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Jodi,
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again
Me: Your spiritual attributes enter…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Me:
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 25 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
2 Cor 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee:…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You wrote:
1 Corinthians 15: 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
The Saints are DEAD, they are not alive. When Christ comes they are made ALIVE AGAIN.
Not be given a body again, but they will be ALIVE AGAIN.Me:…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You wrote:
Please consider the following passages, as I believe you are incorrect.
1 Thess 4:14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of t…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 & 2 and John 1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony:
You: Hi truthcomber I just don’t believe that Jesus Christ come back to earth where He was created. I don’t believe that Jesus was created. God bless.Me:
I will transfer this question to the thread where it is more appropriate forum:
The Creations of Genesis 1 & 2 and John 1
Please initiate your evidence. We can go verse by verse.Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony:
You: Hi truthcomber I just don’t believe that Jesus Christ come back to earth where He was created. I don’t believe that Jesus was created. God bless.
Me:
I will transfer this question to the thread where it is more appropriate forum:The Creations of Genesis 1 & 2 and John 1
Please initiate your evidence. We can go verse by ver…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
I believe this is true
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony,
I think we believe in the same thing as far as restoration of all things are concern. Apocatastasis is the word for restoration or restitution. This is the idea , which has scripture support was espoused by Origen and othersTruthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Yes, Christ had to first ascend into heaven where he is there temporarily before he returns to earth where he was created. He will rule the earth from Jerusalem. His father will be here also.
Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy p…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Edj,
You wrote:
Jesus physical self came through David’s DNA,
but the Spirit of Christ came from eternity to
Bethlehem as Micah 5:2 clearly states.Me:
Mich 5:2
Click on 5769 above the phrase “have been from old” in the link below. There is no definition that says etern…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Gene,
We will never die in the spirit. Our bodies will die and we will receive new bodies of the spirit in the likeness of the old bodies in the flesh.
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi All,
GOD WILL SAVE ALL — JESUS DID NOT DIE IN VAIN
(112 REASONS TO BELIEVE THIS IS SO)https://www.godfire.net/Elwin/112_reasons_2Columns.html
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Gene,
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation (judgment).
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/5-29.htm
Comment: Damnation in John 5:29 means judgment. This is the resurrection at the end of the thousand years and not at the…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony
Good website. My understanding of universalism is that all will be saved in the end.
From the article:
The main Patristic supporters of the apokatastasis theory, such as Bardaisan, Clement, Origin, Didymus, St. Anthony, St. Pamphilus Martyr, Methodius, St. Macrina, St. Gregory of Nyssa (and probably the two other Cappadocians), St.…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi All,
Here is a good website with wealth of information on the second death and lake of fire.
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