Hi Jodi,

Me: Does Satan own our bodies and enslaves us? God delivers us from this body of sin. It cannot be transformed into a body of righteousness.  For what fellowship has Christ with devils (2 Cor 6:14)? 

1 Cor 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table o…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Jodi, redemption FROM our body means the Messiah is going to FREE US FROM it. We will no longer have a body of sin because we will have a new body.

https://biblehub.com/greek/1746.htm
1 Cor 15:53 For this corruptible must put on (1746: endued) incorruption, and this mortal must put on (1746: endued)…[Read more]

Hi Jody,

You:: You are confused, we indeed do receive redemption FROM our body of sin absolutely, we are not saying such is not true. This redemption FROM our body OF SIN, is for that BODY, for “IT” to be changed FROM WEAKNESS “to” POWER, for “IT” to go FROM dishonor “to” honor, for “it” THE BODY to go from corruptible to incorruptible. THAT…[Read more]

Gene,

You: The O L change that takes place is our exact same physical resurected bodies, will be impowered by the holy spirit and not able to die. No scripture says we c are to become a spirit being, without a physical resurected “body”. In fact if Adam was allowed to eat of the tree of Life he still would be alive to this very day, just lik…[Read more]

Gene,

You: When Peter said “until the day star rises in you heart”, he is using allogries for the comming into the truth, it has nothing to do with a actual star of anykind or Changi g from a physical body to a “sprit being” of anykind.

Me: Gene, I was using an analogy. I said Christ is the new Sabbath. You turn around and say I meant the sta…[Read more]

Gene, .

Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Me: Tell me what this is an allegory of?

Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as…[Read more]

Gene,

You: I do see a much better desteny for mankind, The exact same desteny that Jesus now has. Where you are wrong is you are using an allagory a symbolic pasage to describe our bodies and future existence and trying to make it a literial thing. NO WE WILL NOT SHINE LIKE A REAL STAR DOES, no Jesus does not shine like the bright morning star…[Read more]

Gene:

You: HAVEN’T YOU NOTICED, what you say doesn’t even agree with ANTHONY OR CARMEL either ?

Me: You have the spirit of divide and conquer.  You will not succeed.  Neither will your father.  Anthony, Carmel and I all believe that Jesus is the son of God and is God.  This is of upmost importance. Your Father has deceived you.  You and Jodi…[Read more]

Gene:

You: This is like you saying JESUS’ BODY CHANGED TO A DIFFERENT BODY AFTER HE WENT INTO HEAVEN, there is not a single scripture says that, no scripture say Jesus doesn’t have the exact same body he c was raised with, forcing our text to try to make it say, what in fact is not said in scripture is source of false teachings, Bad for…[Read more]

2 Cor 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

Gene:

You: Tell us TC, do you see there the redemption of a different body. I don’t, I see the “redemption” of “our” (this existing ) body.

Me: NO Gene, I explain this thoroughly.  We receive redemption FROM our body of sin not redemption OF our body of sin.

Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me FROM the body of this de…[Read more]

Gene:

You: GOD said he was not a man,” that he should lie, nor a son of man that he should repent”. But JESUS SAID OVER A HUNDRED TIME HE WAS A “SON OF MAN”. which you false teachers deny. You all deny he “is” the root and offspring of king David. But Jesus said in Revelations he “IS” EXACTLY THAT.

Me: Please quote the scripture verse.

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Gene,

You: YOU RELAY DON’ GET IT, or You would understood what I explained to you. JESUS never tried to be “equal” with God because he never could be EQUAL to him.

Me: This is what I stated. The Messiah was the expressed ,unique, and exact expression of his Father. But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a serva…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: “The glory that shall be revealed IN us”, you think glory is according to appearance TC?

Me: The glory will be reveal IN us and our bodies will reflect this.

Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Me: Then you quote Ezk 37 to justify your flesh and bone head theory. I went overt this with your twin Gene. Ezk 37 has nothing to do with the resurrection of the saints’ bodies when Christ comes back. It is the worldly resurrection of the whole nation of Israel (VS 11), not of the saints. I guess “old bones” and “flesh” on them got you…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Once Again:

Romans 8:11 (NASB) But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

1 Cor 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 36 Thou…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Prov 29:20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

Me: I agree.

Prov 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Me: This I had done thoroughly.

1 Cor 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die (me perish): 37 And that…[Read more]

Gene,

You: What that scripture was really saying is this, Jesus being a man with the anointing spirit of God on him, thought not to try to rob God, by making himself equal with him. That is what that passage was truly saying.

Me: I don’t understand why you and Jodi do not name the scriptures? I never once said that the son is equal with his F…[Read more]

Hi All,

One last comment for now.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Me: When God, through his Word, had begotten the male genes into the womb of Mary to produce the Messiah, he did so to produce a son specific to…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

In response to your post #846482 above on this page see “John 3 Born Again” starting with post 846488 on page 7.

Phil 2:6 Who, being in the form (me: image of a man) of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men…[Read more]