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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

     

    2 Cor 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into paradise,…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

    You need to reconcile Romans 6:4, 2 Cor 12:2-4, Gal 5:24, 2 Cor 5:8 and Phil 1:22-25 Below with your thoughts that the dead do not awaken both spiritually and bodily until Christ returns. You have not done this.

    Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

    I see you on line below.  Please do not repost your heresy again.  I will not answer them.  If you can use the above scripture, then ok, give it a shot.

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

     

    Please reconcile 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thes 4:16-17 with 2 Cor 12:2-3, Phil 1:22 and 2 Cor 5:8 and show no contradictions. then I would like to discuss this with you. Taking all the scripture that pertains to the subject we are addressing is how we understand the bible. You have not really even given cursory attention to 2 Cor…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

     

    Job 14:13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
    Me: This first is central and of upmost importance in understanding when the spiritual resurrect takes place.  I has shown where “wrath”  had to be Christ’s lon…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

    You:
    God made David a prophet, God gave David promises, his son would die, but his flesh would not see decay and he would be resurrected to LIFE. I know of no scripture that speaks of the resurrection representing a different resurrection than one to LIFE receiving an immortal body. You have seriously created one weird doctrine. Show me…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    You::
    25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
    When Jesus returns he is going to reign on earth putting all enemies under his feet, what are we told just prior,
    20 But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have died. 21 For since death came through a human being, the resurrection…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

     

    All emphasis in the quotation marks are mine.

     

    You quoted Me: 29 “Fellow Israelites, I may say to you confidently of our ancestor David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
    You: REALLY nailing it hear that David is DEAD, HE DIED, HE was BURIED, and his tomb is with us to this day.
    Delusional to u…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

    You quoted Me:

    Please reconcile 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thes 4:16-17 with 2 Cor 12:2-3, Phil 1:22 and 2 Cor 5:8 and show no contradictions.

    You:  I have already gone through that twice with you, and I have told you that according to my understanding of these scriptures there is no contradiction, there is NOTHING that needs to be…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi and Gene,

     

    Please reconcile 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thes 4:16-17 with 2 Cor 12:2-3, Phil 1:22 and 2 Cor 5:1,8 and show no contradictions. then I would like to discuss this with you. Taking all the scripture that pertains to the subject we are addressing is how we understand the bible. You have not really even given cursory attention…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

    We went over all the others already. You have not made your case–far from it. The Messiah is the Word of God bonded as one with the flesh of the seed of David. The Word was God and is God. The Word bonded with the seed of David as the heart and mind of God bonded as one with the human heart and mind of the messiah through the holy…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

    Continued:
    Acts 2:29 (KJV) Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day

     

    Bible Hub: Men brothers it is permitted to speak with freedom with you concerning the Patriarch David that both he died and was buried and the tomb of him is…[Read more]

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    Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years ago

    Hi Jodi,

     

    Eccl 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool’s voice is known by multitude of words.

    Me: You didn’t have to write a book. A lot of what you were saying doesn’t relate to what we are trying to establish here: who is Christ and his relationship to God.
    Also, you keeping saying the same things over and ove…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    I will get to you later.  Please wait until I reply to your last post.

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    Hi Anthony,

     

    Hi Anthony, I think you did a good job, except for a few changes like the Word was in the OT, Now it is the Word as one with Christ in the NT.

    You did not blaspheme the word by saying that the Messiah had  received the holy spirit at Jordan and was not born of God.

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    Hi Nick,

     

    You said to Anthony,
    God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. 2cor 5.

    Did you not know that God was in the prophets and apostles as well by His Spirit?
    Because God uses these vessels for His purposes does not make any of these servants God does it?

    Me:
    2 Cor 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto…[Read more]

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    Hi All,

     

    Luke 2:9 And, lo, the angel (32. aggelos) of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

    https://biblehub.com/greek/32.htm
    32. aggelos
    Strong’s Concordance
    aggelos: an angel, messenger
    Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
    Transliteration: aggelos
    Pho…[Read more]

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    Gene:

    You: TC….You said being anointed with the holy spirit did not mean Jesus did not already have the spirit “in” him.
    You have it completely backwards, GOD SPIRIT WAS “ON” HIM, WATCHING OVER HIM FROM THE START, BUT CAME TO BE “IN” HIM AT THE ANOINTING BY JOHN THE BAPTIST. Thats when the word came to be “in” the flesh, the flesh man Jesus.

    M…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick:

    You: The Holy Spirit was already IN HIM? Any scriptures?
    Why deny the Jordan anointing?

    Me:
    Young’s Literal Translation
    Luke 1:35 And the messenger answering said to her, ‘The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee, therefore also the holy-begotten thing shall be called Son of God;

    New…[Read more]

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    The bone head theory that the glorified Christ is flesh and bone in absurd.

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