Gene:

You: To all……there is no word “being”, a word is intelligent utterance, it is brought forth from the mind. God the Fathers words come from his mind, just as yours do. words are a product of the spirit in a person. RATHER that spirit be of the devil, or of God depends on the SPIRITS PRODUCING THEM.

Me: Half True.  God speaks through…[Read more]

Hi T8,

Thanks for the insight. To capitalize “word” is up to the discretion of the interpreter. I believe that the “word” became one with the seed of David (John 1:14) and became the “Word”, a person. Christ epitomized the words or thoughts of God. The expressed mind of God or “word” became one with the person of the seed of David through the hol…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

Could you comment on my last post on the “The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised” thread?

Hi Anthony,

Me: Good post…but I would like to add some clarity.

You:

The Watchtower book, Holy Spirit–The force behind the coming new order, printed in 1975 says that Jesus became the Christ at His baptism. This is not true. Jesus was born the Christ as it says in Luke 2:11
for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Sav…[Read more]

Hi All,

Someone had to die in order that an inheritance be passed down to the inheritor.

Hi All,

One main point in the last post is that in order for someone to have an inheritance, someone had to die.  When the Messiah died, it was as if the Father had died.

Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Hi All,

Col 1:16 (Bible Hub) Because in (1722) him were created all things in (1722) the heavens and upon the earth the visible and the invisible whether thrones or dominions or rulers and authorities all things for him and unto (1519) him have been created.

2 Cor 5:19 (Bible Hub) How that God was in (1722) Christ…

Col 1:19 For it pleased t…[Read more]

Hi All,

John 1:27 He it is, who coming after me is preferred before (above)  me, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose.
Matt 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Me: So, how do…[Read more]

Gene,

You: 2….Do you believe Jesus HIMSELF IS THE ANOINTING SPIRIT?

Heb 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten (born) thee.

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten (born) of the dead, and the prince of t…[Read more]

Gene:

You: 1….DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS WAS ANOINT-ED and recieved , THE HOLY SPIRIT AT THE RIVER JORDAN?

Me: N0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Young’s Literal Translation
John 1:14 And the Word (word) became flesh, and did tabernacle among us, and we beheld his glory, glory as of an only begotten of a father, full of grace and truth.
The Messiah did n…[Read more]

Gene: 

You: What does this mean to you TC, “I am going to my Father and “your” Father, my God and “your” God.
Me: God has more than one aspect: he and himself revealed. The Father is greater than himself (image) revealed (John 14:28).

New American Standard Bible
Matt 23:8 “But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are al…[Read more]

Gene:

Me: Here are the three corresponded verses that relate to each other.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the (holy spirit), whom the Father will SEND IN MY NAME, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the spirit (word) of truth, is come, he…[Read more]

Hi All,

Young’s Literal Translation
Romans 13:1 …for there is no authority except from God, and the authorities existing are appointed by God,

Psalm 82:1 (A Psalm of Asaph.) God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods (men judges). 2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. 3 D…[Read more]

Hi All,

New American Standard Bible
1 Cor 15:38 But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own.

Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Me:…[Read more]

Gene:
You: Point is we can have the same reavealed knowledge of God in us, just the same as Jesus has. Those scriptures ties Jesus’ idenity with God, exactly as we have.

Me:

No!!! Absolutely NOT!!!

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things t…[Read more]

Gene,

I wrote:

Matt 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter…[Read more]

Gene:

You: In what way does that make Jesus any different then his brothers and sisters?

Me:
1 John 5:20 And we know that THE Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is TRUE, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the TRUE, and eternal life.

Me: We are adopted sons of God.…[Read more]

Gene
You quoted: Gal 4:6 and 1 John 3:2.

Me:

Gal 4:6 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son (from the bosom of God), made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the ADOPTION of sons. 6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your…[Read more]

Gene,

Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one LIKE unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat LIKE unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp…[Read more]

Gene,

You: TC……All those being lead by the spirit of God “are ” sons of God, not just Jesus. WHAT makes you think we are not “literal” son of God also?
Rom 8:14, Gal 4:6, 1 John 3:2.

Me:

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Me: We are not fully the sons of God until we are born again from the de…[Read more]