Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Gene, be real
Luke 24:36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Hi Jodi,
Me: The Messiah would transform into a spirit—the holy spirit with the human heart of man in it.
You: This is a perfect example of me losing you.
Me:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was n…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Hi Jodi,
Hi Jodi,
Me: I am only going to respond to what I have not discussed with you before unless I feel I can put new light on the “son of man”,
You: 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer wit…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Hi All,
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Me: So we die physically because of sin because we sin because the dead nature of a human personal relationship with God was passed on by Adam.
.John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Hi All,
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was BORN AFTER THE SPIRIT, even so it is now.
Me: So how was Isaac born of the spirit when there was no Son of God yet.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Hi All,
Heb 5:5 (NASB) So also Christ did not glorify Himself so as to become a high priest, but He who said to Him,
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten (me: born) You”;Me: Now the Father had been talking to Christ always begotten and born and having spent thirty plus years here on earth.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the chu…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Hi All,
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only (me:: monogenous—unique or one of a kind) Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Heb 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure o…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi All,
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Me: The Word and God are one. The expression of God (the Word) and God are one.
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word,…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi All,
Matt 6:9 … “Our Father which art in heaven”…
Me: Most of the book of revelation deals with the events that lead up to our heavenly Father being with men in Rev 21. Prior to that, God’s mind was projected into the Messiah from heaven.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, an…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi Gene and All,
The Father is here on earth when there will be a new heaven and earth, , not any sooner
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son…25 Son of God…27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Me: The son of God is the son of man. All jud…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi All,
Matt 24:36 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi All,
2 Cor 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
1 Cor 14:45 (NASB) So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving SPIRIT.
1 Cor 15:22 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
John 5:25 Most…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi All,
2 Cor 3:3 (NKJV) You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.
Me: We will have a new human heart of the holy spirit of…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi All,
God expresses himself wholly in Christ.
Col 2:8 (NASB)…rather than according to Christ. 9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
Isa 43:11 (NASB) I, even I, am the LORD, And there is no savior besides Me.
Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 2 months ago
John 1:1 (Greek text) In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and God was the Word.
Me: This is the original Greek text. Click the link above. There is no article in “God was the Word.” It is not “THE God was the Word”. So is God not God?You: God doesn’t have the definite article, Logos does.
Me: The Granville Sharp rule stat…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi T8
You: To understand how the definite article can make a big difference to a piece of text, look at this example. Have a guess as to which one is correct.
a) In the beginning was THE woman
b) and THE woman was with THE man
c) and THE Woman was THE man
a) In the beginning was THE woman
b) and THE woman was with THE man
c) and THE Woman was…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi T8,
You: I am open to the Word being God because I believe that everything came from God even the Word that was with God. God is the Father of spirits after all.
If you read the commentaries shortly after the Apostles on John 1:1, their understanding of what was written in the New Testament is the God was alone and the first to come from…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 2 months ago
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am YHWH; and beside me there is no savior.
John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
John 5:30 I…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi T8,
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a SON is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace.
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi T8,
Your application of the Granville sharp rule to John 1:1 is bogus.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/1-1.htm
John 1:1 (Greek text) In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and God was the Word.
Me: This is the original Greek text. Click the link above. There is no article in “God was the Word.” It is not “THE God w…[Read more]
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