Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Gene:
John 14:24…He that loves me not keeps not my sayings: and the word which you hear, is “NOT” mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
Gene: The thoughts originate from the Father, but become the son’s words.
John 16:13 But when He, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiativ<…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me.
Me:
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word (Logos) which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
John 16:12 (NASB) “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 But when…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Hi All,
Old Testament:
1697. dabar
Phonetic Spelling: (daw-baw’)
Definition: speech, word
Me: God spoke or revealed himself directly to the prophets in telephony or in dreams through his spirit. There was no intermediary. The way God revealed things in the OT was through his spirit, which is his word. God is mind and spirit. God’s mind is in h…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Hi All,
1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus (salvation) Christ (anointed) is come in ___flesh is of God:
https://biblehub.com/lexicon/1_corinthians/10-4.htm1 Cor 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Hi All,
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am YHWH; and BESIDES ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR…14 Thus saith the YHWH your REDEMER, the Holy One.
Good News Translation
John 3:16 For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to be its j…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Hi All,
To clarify:
Berean Study Bible
Judges 13:18 “Why do you ask My name,” said the Angel of YHWH, “since it is beyond comprehension?”Me: The name behind YHWH is incomprehensible now.
Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name (unknown :Judges 13:18) of YHWH shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Gene:
Young’s Literal Translation
Matt 24:36 ‘And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known — not even the messengers of the heavens — except my Father only;John 14:15 (NASB) ALL THINGS that the Father has are Mine…
Me: Again the Son glorifies the Father in Matt 24:36,
Matt 24:37 ALL THINGS ARE DELIVERED UNTO ME OF THE FATHER: an…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 7 months ago
Gene:
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
John 16:12 (NASB) “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own i…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 8 months ago
Gene:
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him…10 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 11 Believest thou not that I am i…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 8 months ago
Gene:
Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Me: Gene, this means both knees.
Phil 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 8 months ago
John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
Me: This passage proves that God came in the flesh, not that Christ is…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 8 months ago
Hi All,
Prov 16:4YHWH hath made all things for himself…
Psalm 89:11 (NKJV) The heavens are Yours, the earth also is Yours; 12 The world and all its fullness, You have founded them.
Me: God, created all things for himself
Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether th…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 8 months ago
Hi All,
Berean Literal Bible
Romans 1:20 For from the creation of the world His invisible qualities, both His eternal power and divinity, are clearly seen, being understood by the things made, for them to be without excuse.1 John 1:1 (NASB) What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 8 months ago
Hi All,
Psalm 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy SPIRIT? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there 9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; 10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 8 months ago
New American Standard Bible
1 Cor 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ (G5547: the ANOINTED ONE).
https://biblehub.com/greek/5547.htm2 Sam 22: For who is God, save YHWH? and who is a rock, save our God?
Me: The Messiah was anointed to be our savior…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 8 months ago
Gene:
You: TC…..by the way , I was taking about the “man” Jesus, when I said he was tempted in every way as we are, it was you who brought up GOD “NOT” ME. And GOD CAN NOT BE TEMPTED TO SIN, FOR God does not sin,but Jesus sure could be tempted by sin,as it says he was tempted in all mannor as we are and yet without sin.
Me: Totally false. Yo…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 8 months ago
Gene:
Answer one question: Do you or would you worship the Messiah as God?
Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 8 months ago
Gene,
You: The Jesus you preach is not a son of man, and a son of God “exactly” as we are. , you preach a different Jesus a non flesh human Jesus, you deny that he “HAD” to be anointed after he became an adult in order to become filled with the HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER, in order to fulfill the will of God and become the Messiah of God.
Yo…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 8 months ago
Gene:
You: That alone should tell you Jesus “himself” is not the word, but if you can’t believe what Jesus himself clearly said, in simple and clear terms, then how can we expect any truth from you.
Me:
Rev 19:12 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he do…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 8 months ago
.Gene:
You: TC…..THE HOLY SPIRIT and power, that Jesus recieved, he recieved at the Jordan river, exactly as scripture clearly says . You have no scripture that say other wise.
You make the man Jesus into the word of God, that also is a lie, Jesus never said he was the word of God anywhere in scripture. But he did say this, ” the words I am tel…[Read more]- Load More