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    Adam,I do not understand all those points from scripture. Could you include the scriptures that you believe support your conclusion for each point?I believe that the idea that the Holy Spirit is a separate person from God is caused by assuming that since it has characteristics of a person it must be separate and self willed. The Rabbinic Jews…[Read more]

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    Shimmer,There are two female stork winged angels in scripture. I came across them when studying Zachariah. They are mentioned in Zackariah 5:9. That is the only scripture I know which mentions female angels or angels with wings. It is prophecy and therefore prone to be symbolic and therefore perhaps foolish to take literal.From my understanding…[Read more]

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    Shimmer,You wrote:Quote It's sin/hardness of heart that separates us from God and grieves the Holy Spirit.Excellent discovery!  Do you now know who the peace is between by the “peacemakers” Jesus was referring to in the b-attitude, aka promise of the new covenant, addressed to those that performed that service?I agree with the modern Rabbinic Jews…[Read more]

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    Adam.I am unsure why you believe the fact that Canaanites and Israelis have the same name for God in common is relevant to the issue being discussed.  Have you considered it may be just because of the actual definition of El?  The Wikipedia entry for El (deity) seems to define it as God.Whatever the case, it does not aid in resolving the issue f…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Dual Nature of Christ 15 years, 10 months ago

    Pierre,Mike Boll was sharing a bit of understanding that he came across and felt the desire to share. I tested the spirit of it and found it agreed with what scripture stated. I let Mike know my conclusions.Other than that, Mike Boll, adressed the situation quite sastificatory.

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    Adam,It is true that modern Rabbinic Jews like the writers of the New and Old Testaments disagree with the militiaperson God of the Trinitarians but they do believe that it has “a certain degree of personification while remaining one of God’s attributes, Wikipedia article on Holy Spirit. The New Testament writers are merely expressing this bel…[Read more]

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    Pierre,Galatians 3:1-3:5 tells the different methods of obtaining the goal of being like God in true righteousness and holiness. The method of human effort used under the law, Galatians 3:12, failed as “no one is righteous” under the law, Romans 3:10-11. On the other hand if you live by the Spirit you will not sins, Galatians 5:16 and thus you…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 10 months ago

    Mike Boll,I hope to look into what you state about “going forth” as it is the first I remember hearing about it.Do you believe the Spirit of Christ is the hypothetic Spiritual being Christ?

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    Adam,You should look at the Jewis point of view of the Spirit of Holiness. It is much what the new testiment writers picture it as if I remember it correctly.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Dual Nature of Christ 15 years, 10 months ago

    Pierre,The source I agree with is a quote of Fredrick Louis Godet.

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    Laurel,The new covenant is new because the method of carying out the righteous commands of God changes from human effort to godly effort through the Spirit of God.As a Jew you should be aware that the Spirit of God is the active force of God, i.e. godly effort. God used that force to create a new people that are righteous as he is righteous and…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Dual Nature of Christ 15 years, 10 months ago

    Pierre.Then you should unstop your ears and open your eyes as I asked a question I wanted to hear the answer to. I then voiced a hypothosis about John 1:15 and expressed a desire to look further into it. In addition I agreed with Mike Bolo's source.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 10 months ago

    Irene,You state some of the 45 scripture you believe support the theory of Jesus’ preexistence are plainly written.  Your examples are Revelations 19:13-16 and John 1:1-11.   Revelations 19:13-16 does not even name the individual in chapter 19:13-16 so the best we can do is infer the name.  You like me appear to infer the individual is Jesus.  We…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 10 months ago

    Mike Boll,Please note I used Romans 8 when constructing the below argument.As regards to 1 Corinthians 15:4, what does Scripture declare the life given spirit is? Is it not the Spirit of righteousness that we receive through Jesus? ? God gives us life through the Holy Spirit just as he gave Jesus life after he died. As to your apparent…[Read more]

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    Adam,I am not very familiar that scripture has derivatives as historical events told by different authors often sound different.   I also cannot say if those differences are important given my lack of knowledge.  It does not surprise me that different tribes have different viewpoints depending what they believed to be important.  There were pr…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Dual Nature of Christ 15 years, 10 months ago

    Mike Boll,I am not seeing where I disagree with Fredrick Louis Godet according to that excerpt.I have never heard that the Jews believed that a patriarch does not call one of his descendents Lord. Where did you hear that claim?I believe you also address John 1:15 which is worded different than a similar statement found in each of the other…[Read more]

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    Adam,You assume that God has to tell us in detail what will happen in the future, at least in regards to the Messiah. I assure you he does not. The Jews will affirm this as they believe God keeps some things to himself. So even if it does not state that the Messiah must die to bring in the Messianic Age does not mean it will not happen.As a…[Read more]

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    Laurel,You fail to understand Wisdom. You should study Wisdom's call in Proverbs. The Spirit teaches but it used many tools to do so whether they are a unbelieving high priest, a tree in the field, a breeze blowing by, or even another person who claims to seek God. Questions are made to enable people to think things through. God praises those…[Read more]

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    Laurel,You battle against those who claim to be Christian but strive to make a Jew a Gentile while yourself striving to make a Gentile a Jew. That is not the way of Christ.The sum of the Law is Love and though the Sabbath holiday is based on love it is not in is specifics a righteous requirement of the law. Never the less a Jew has pledghed to…[Read more]

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    Adam,I have to be brief but would like to make a few points.1)Taking prophecy as literal is not necessary a good idea as it is highly symbolic.2)Stephen is actually said to have seen God’s glory at first and then that glory is called God later or similar to what Solomon said in his dedication of the First Temple.3)Angels are often referred to a…[Read more]

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