Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2013,05:55)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 03 2013,05:47)T,You are correct that interpretation does not make sense in the particular context of the passage that verse is in but when the context is different some believe that the word that men live by is the preexistent Christ.Kthose who believe that are dreamers ,and Me ,mike or…[Read more]

Marty,Sounds right.

Marty,What do you mean by spiritual sense?

T,You are correct that interpretation does not make sense in the particular context of the passage that verse is in but when the context is different some believe that the word that men live by is the preexistent Christ.

Marty,Despite my knee jerk reaction to some of your words I agree that the world were not framed by the preexistent Christ and yet some insist that they were. I am of the opinion that such a belief is the result of traditional teachings and a flawed understanding of Scripture. I liked the way you used scripture to support your point.

T,The point addressed by this thread is whether the interpretation that the Word in Matthew 4:4 is the preexistent Christ. Please address that point. Thank you.

Marty,Jesus is neither found or seen in this world as he now dwells in heaven. Those in his presence within that realm do see him.Note: I strayed off topic in this post.

T,You made an accusation but I would like to know what road you believe my mind has taken?

Quote (abe @ Sep. 01 2013,23:01)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 24 2013,08:54)Quote (abe @ Aug. 25 2013,03:16)Hi Marty,Jn.5:37   And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.Peace brother……Hi Abe:Thanks, but Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees.  We know that there w…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 06 2013,21:36)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 02 2013,16:45)Quote (david @ Feb. 02 2013,09:11)Quote From what I have heard Nostradamus, some of his predictions did turn out true.Well, the interpretation of “some” of his predictions seem to come true.  But he wrote a lot.  Of the vast majority of what he said can't be said to come true, t…[Read more]

David,Scripture does not say the witch of Endor used fraud. Stating all psychics are frauds is a logically unsound unless each and every one of them has been tested and been found to be frauds by reliable means. I am as skeptical as next man as many frauds do exist.

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 01 2013,21:51)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 01 2013,12:12)T,I agree faith without deeds is not faith.I also agree there is a faith that results in worldly sorrow and fear and so is legitimate.   please make sure that this understanding remains with you in all other discussions ,because it is a true base ,firm,in rockT,I dropped…[Read more]

T,Is that also what you think is meant when some speak of the fall of man?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2013,21:34)Even better.  So then in a non-poetic way, the Word OF God is obviously NOT the very God it is OF, right?So what then is it?Mike,The word is the device God uses to teach, manipulate all that is, and much more. It is Jehovah's utterance by which he teaches and by which he lives. In it is the life of men and…[Read more]

T,I agree faith without deeds is not faith.I also agree there is a faith that results in worldly sorrow and fear and so is illegitimate.Note: changed legitimate to illegitimate.

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 01 2013,06:10)the beast are so called in my understanding  FOR THE LIVE ACCORDING TO THE FLESH AND SO HAVE NO REGARDS FOR THE SPIRIT OF TRUE AND WILL OF GOD ,T,I agree that certain men are as beast as they live according to the flesh and have no regard for the things of the spirit.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2013,07:58)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 31 2013,12:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2013,21:23)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 29 2013,15:29)Mike,I think his word is a device God used to create all that is created.Jehovah states the world was set in order by his device……it is equivalent to a man stating “this house was built by my…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 01 2013,16:59)Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2013,22:05)The mark of the beast is the sinful nature as those like it act like Brute beasts.  There may come to be an outward mark as well.Highly speculative, but then again most other views are speculative including the one in the video.T8.Not really as there is enough Scriptural support to…[Read more]

T,You receive the spirit by faith and faith is not doing nothing.Even a demon who is damned shivers because of faith.A man who states he believes but does react to that belief is either a liar or incapable of reacting.I assume that those that believe are not like a demon in their reactions and are capable of reacting.When they hear Jesus' message…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 30 2013,06:35)Isn't “devil” just a word that means “slanderer,” like “angel” means “messenger”?David,Something like that. The Jews and Greeks seemed to have a tendency to label things like that as both called used the wind to mean spirit.