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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 8 years, 12 months ago

    Hogshead1,

    The notion of a wholly immaterial entity came from Hellenic philosophy, not Scripture

    It may be a Hellenistic teaching but it also is a Hebrew one based on Genesis 1:1. There was no space for a body to exist in prior to Genesis 1:1.

    Helenes were polytheistic and the gods had bodies. Their philosophers may have borrowed the idea…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 8 years, 12 months ago

    Hogshead,

    The Jews also teach God has no body so that teaching exists in Jewish culture as well as that of the Gentiles.

    Anthropomorphism is used figuratively as are other symbolic representations.

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    Toggle,

    Did you study anything about Philo’s writings in your theological studies?

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    Togel,

    The Son is the word that comes out of God’s mouth according to the first century teachings of Philo of Alexandria. We are taught to assume it is Jesus but it could be used for both him and the word of God as Jesus also has many of the characteristics that Philo attributes to God’s word.

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    Togel,

    Do you know the words ” the First and the Last” are correctly interpreted at the only one in a series. Alpha and Omega mean much the same as they are the first and last last of the Greek alphabet. The same is true of beginning and end. In short it means the one and only.

    God uses the words “first and last” in the OT to reveal he is the…[Read more]

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    To all,

    They do have the right to exist as a nation, and we should should support that right.

    I am not sure who said this but it is an absurd statement as any nation exists it by definition has a right to exist because it would exist unless God allowed it to.

    It is a secular nation and therefore godless but that may just testify that prophecy…[Read more]

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    hogshead1,

    Should it not read “the Word was in the form of God”?

    Perhaps I misunderstood you as these words are the equivalent of saying “the word has the qualities of God”.

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    hogshead1;

    Yes, definitely. The passage is saying the Word is God.

    Many in the church are taught to misunderstand those words for “the word” is not the Christ Person and “is” is not saying what kind he is but instead it is describing the qualities of the word.

    The teaching of that there was three persons of the one God kind did not exist in…[Read more]

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    hogshead1,

    The prologue the word that comes out of God’s mouth is God; not Jesus.

    We have been wrongly taught “the word” is a title of Jesus.

    Philo of Alexandria, a man who lived in the first century, also taught the word is God but he was not speaking of the Christ nor of the identity of the word. Instead he taught about the characteristics…[Read more]

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    hoghead1,

    Scripture calls human beings gods because they received the word of God (John 10:35) does that mean they are gods?

    The people worshiped King David (1 Chronicles 29:20) does that mean he is God?

    The bottom line is those that believe God cannot be tempted by evil and also believe Jesus was tempted as is common to man also believe is…[Read more]

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    hoghead1,

    Jesus is not God (James 1:13) but rather he is a human being (1 Timothy 2:5) that was appointed to be Lord of all things in heaven and on earth. (Matthew 28:18-18)
    God chose him to be the Christ  before the world came to be (2 Timothy 1:9) and before he made him in his mother’s womb.(Galatians 4:4)
    God imparted his Spirit on him.…[Read more]

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    @t8,

    For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

    Have you considered the flaws in these words of your?

    Matthew 1:21Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

    Your words imply that those are…[Read more]

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    Hoghead1,

    The Trinity is Scripture is part of the unity of the Spirit. It is the head of the body. It is not three that are one in being God but rather three that are one in walking according to the Spirit.

    There is a Second Trinity which is spoken of in Genesis 1 and other places. It is God, his Spirit, and his word. It is testified with…[Read more]

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    Ed,

    Q2 Why does the “AKJV Bible” uses the term “LORD of Hosts”
    while the ‘NWT Bible’ uses the term “JEHOVAH of Armies”.
    This is a replication example of my first example.

    They mean the same thing but the translators of the LXII translated Yawheh to the Lord and AV of the KJV followed that convention.
    Hosts and Armies are a synonyms as is…[Read more]

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    Ed,

    Genetics is not the perfect that is most important to God.

    Seth’ line is traced back to God’s creation of humanity (Genesis 5) while Cain’s line is not. Instead his line is traced to the results of his crime. (Genesis 19:24)

    Even in Cain’s birth 23 verses earlier the creation of humanity is not reiterated. God does the same thing when…[Read more]

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    t8,

    There is certainly a stronger though circumstantial case the offspring of the sons of Seth and daughters of Cain were called Nephilim.

    I think the Seventh Day Adventist taught me that Seth and his line were Nephilim.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Questions About Faith /Recovery in the forum Faith 9 years ago

    Miia,

    A common situation I see in the world is to define what is evil as good and condemn those that hate it for being evil.

    Another ones are that “love” seems to melt away with the first hot rays of the sun or or a spattering of rain.

    There are exceptions to that even among those of the world though they indulge in other violations.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Questions About Faith /Recovery in the forum Faith 9 years ago

    miia,

    To start with godly love hates evil and it never fails.

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    kerwin replied to the topic Questions About Faith /Recovery in the forum Faith 9 years ago

    Miia,

    Those words from Ecclesiastes would cover love as love is the sum of the Law but God’s definition of Love is not the same definition this world uses.

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    Gene,

    If I knew Koine Greek better or had a good source of knowledge I could give a firm answer of it but Lexicons leave something to be desired. The only real link I have between the seven spirits and the seven angels is the number, the book, and the fact there is a teaching that there is a teaching that the seven eyes are seven angels. In…[Read more]

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