Hi Bod. Feelings can be tamed. Pain has an advantage sometimes and can stop us doing crazy things through fear of the resulting pain.Pleasure can be a temptation to sin. It depends what we take pleasure in.

Hi Terrarica, You are saying that though from which point of view (regarding eternal torment)?Regarding Gods love and justice;Jeremiah 3:12 ‘ I am merciful,’ says the LORD; ‘ I will not remain angry forever.   (Isiah 57:14)   “ I dwell in the high and holy place,      With him who has a contrite and humble spirit,      To revive the spirit of th…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2010,21:15)2) The Beast of Rev.11:7 (spiritual) refers to the king of Rev.9:11; this is undoubtedly Lucifer/satan himself.The JWs believe Abaddon could (actually) be Jesus himself, most of Christianity are undecided whom this Angel is, weather good or bad. It is used to punish those without Gods mark or seal, and speaks of…[Read more]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 27 2010,17:19)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 27 2010,10:09)Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 27 2010,02:11)karmarieVery good, I wonder how many others will agree with that?What is harder to understand? give me an example.GeorgHi George.(Rushing through and multi tasking at the mo so I cant read up on it in the Bible at the mo)Where it got…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2010,21:33)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 21 2010,22:02)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2010,21:39)Hi Karmarie,Religious leaders use this futuristic threat to get people under their control!The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.God blessEd…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Feb. 26 2010,09:23)Just curious, but do Christians actually agree on anything?I have observed over the course of my bible studies that for every doctrine there seems to be two opposing camps within Christianity, and both sides claim biblical support.  So, my question is:Can you name one belief that is unique to Christianity…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 27 2010,01:07)So is god the author of confusion or not?StuartI think maybe we ourselves are.

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Feb. 27 2010,08:46)As for being the “son”, in what sense?  Literal or figurative?  I would refer to the believer's section of this website to see the disagreements among christians on this issue.Again, nothing agreed upon that's unique to christianity.This site is a good example of confusion- Or probably more the internet in g…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 27 2010,06:50)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 26 2010,20:38)Quote Every professed Christian agrees that Jesus livedJesus DiedJesus was risen from the deadJesus had disciplesJesus was the SonJesus is Christ(I corrected that for you above.)Yep, if it stopped right there, it would be easy.God calls us and opens our eyes, suddenly the…[Read more]

Quote (selah @ Feb. 27 2010,09:23)Definitely agreed Karmarie and Georg … beast can mean kingdom.For Rome watchers, I found the specific Greek form used for “beast” in Rev 11:7 describing “the beast out of the sea” to be prophetically telling.In this particular passage, beast means … to amass, to lay or heap up treasure. Those who have read…[Read more]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 27 2010,02:11)karmarieVery good, I wonder how many others will agree with that?What is harder to understand? give me an example.GeorgHi George.(Rushing through and multi tasking at the mo so I cant read up on it in the Bible at the mo)Where it got confusing if I recall is when it seemed to become 2 individuals in the book…[Read more]

Hi WJA while back I said that Muslims were having dreams and visions of Jesus- (by the thousands)Someone replied with the same -“Satan can appear as an Angel of light'But if that were true, Why would Satan be bringing people to Jesus? Also WJ, I really am sorry about that incident we had a while back! Its the first forum iv been on, iv since…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,23:55)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 26 2010,21:27)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,22:55)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 26 2010,20:38)God is not the Author of confusionGenesis 11:7-91 Corinthians 1:27 StuartOh sorry I didnt realize I was quoting PaulThat expains it then.You were quoting 1 Corinthians 14:33.  It would seem Paul does not have…[Read more]

Thanks for your posts Ed:)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 26 2010,19:31)ED J………You have a good understanding of Scriptures , why affix numbers to them in the first place, what good are they to you or anyone, how do they help us better understand scriptures? I personally think you would be far more effective without the numbers and Just use you knowledge of scriptures. Just my…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,22:55)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 26 2010,20:38)God is not the Author of confusionGenesis 11:7-91 Corinthians 1:27 StuartOh sorry I didnt realize I was quoting PaulThat expains it then.

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,18:56)You shall have no other gods before me Not illegal in NZ.You shall not make for yourself an idol Not illegal in NZ.You shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God We have a blasphemy law, but you know that it would be laughed at if ever applied.  It is an unenforceable law.Remember the Sabbath and keep it…[Read more]

Quote Every professed Christian agrees that Jesus livedJesus DiedJesus was risen from the deadJesus had disciplesJesus was the SonJesus is Christ(I corrected that for you above.)Yep, if it stopped right there, it would be easy.God calls us and opens our eyes, suddenly the Bible has real meaning, we cant put it down.But then we make the errorWe…[Read more]

Ed, Hi.Quote It doesn't matter if it's GOD The Father or Jesus guiding you.Thats exactly how I came to see it. I spent so long analyzing trinity/non trinity and in the end decided that It didnt really matter whomever was there 'sort of thing' and not having to think about it..Quote Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be FIVE (shown below)…[Read more]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 26 2010,15:10)To allLet me ask you all a question, what is meant by “BEAST”?GeorgBeast=kingdomBeast as a 'non animal' is first mentioned in the book of Daniel. And explained as kingdoms.Daniel 7:17'The four great beasts are four kingdoms that will rise from the earth.It is then mentioned in Revelations but is a bit harder…[Read more]