Shimmer,Thank you…you make me smile.Mike appears to be sensitive, like a woman. Perhaps he should be treated like one.He belives in 'Alien Sex'…invisible Angels 'laying down' with women…Hey, i got a great joke about that…Do you wanna hear it? And it does involve 'Super Men'…

Mike,Only two questions…Jesus is directly created from God, you say,…so he is God from God.And, you say, God created the Angels through Jesus.1) What higher glory can a God from God have?2) If Jesus is God from God, how would anyone want to compare him to that which he had a hand in creating – Angels.(Is the Potter compared to the Pots he…[Read more]

Ok Terra,I leave you to your 'folly'.

Mike,I strain at finding credibility in anything you say….but you slowly working in what you hear into what you believe…hmmm…maybe Stuart is right, but only that SOME humans evolve from the Apes…The Angels were not 'Angels' when they procreated. They are Spirits…they created human bodies, placed themselves, that is 'Spirit', so the…[Read more]

Terra,There are those given to the refiner, and those who are not.If you are not given to the refiner, don't despise those that are.Shimmer started a thread, 'Does it Matter'. What do you think? Does refinement matter?The answer is: 'Certainly. To them who are for the refiner'What is the mathematical number for 'pi': 3.142.Yes, Terra, for an…[Read more]

Terra,What is 'not of God'…a lightsabre?And i only mention Stuart because of the Science element. To show Stuart that Science is nothing more than what man uses to uncover what God has created.Science is everything to Stuart…but is the world created by Science? What of ART, Phylosophy, Sociology, Biology (outside of Science), Love, Thought,…[Read more]

Irene, t8,Should we be commenting on Pierre's belief, as in the thread title

Terra,Your listing is good.If that were all there is to Scriptures then you are saved.However, there are those who seek refinement…and that refinement means digging into things like, 'How is Jesus God's Son', 'Was Jesus Created, or just 'came forth' from God'…and so on.Yes, your belief is correct, keep believing…but, don't despise the…[Read more]

Terra,I don't know what you are talking about. I think you completely misunderstand what is written to you.I am not saying that humans can live forever…nor do the things that Science shows can be done.Where do you see me saying that?I am saying that a 'body' cannot exist as a body in any other dimension than the four we currently exist in.To…[Read more]

when Schroedingers cat is in a higher dimension, can you kill it…can it get run over by Mikeboll's 4×4 station wagon?How can you kill an Angel?How can you kill a Spirit?Every place that the cat is in at that moment in time requires a different means of killing it…can you do that? It would mean you being also in every place where the cat's…[Read more]

Kerwin,In this aspect, i uphold your ideas.The others cannot see in the Spirit and allude to Spirit as a direct relation to physical flesh and environment. Hence it is impossible for them to imagine how, for instance, Jesus could appear inside a locked room, or disappear into a cloud, Not 'into the cloud' but 'as if hidden by the cloud' as a…[Read more]

Kerwin,Scriptures says that Jesus is the first to be resurrected from the dead and is therefore first over all created beings with a heavenly body to occupy the heavenly place.All those whom you mentioned are not resurrected bodies in Spirit form. If Moses didn't 'die' how could he have been 'resurrected', and Enoch was 'taken', so he could not be…[Read more]

ST,You rightly state that Scriptures does not state Jesus as 'Son of God' until he was born 'Son of Man' through Mary.This is where Gene starts his 'Existence of Jesus'.However, we know that God sent him from among his Spiritual Sons, because he was the most righteous, the most loved of the 'Spiritual Sons', hence he was identified like the human…[Read more]

LU,You say that Jesus delivering the message of God, would be called a Messenger, but not a Messenger like the Angels are called Messengers.Why?A Messenger is a Messenger.A Messenger Angel is an Angel delivering a message from GodJesus was a Messenger Angel and delivered the word of God.Why do you create a different category of 'Messenger'.”He…[Read more]

LU,But that was not the question.You can't change the question after you hear the answer and realise the little killerblow question you thought was going to blast your opponent has rebounded on you.I keep telling Mikeboll that he needs to tighten up his arguments…have yiu not seen my posts stating that to him?In addition, he needs to learn how…[Read more]

Kerwin,You are one step closer to truth than the others.Only Jesus, at the time the Scriptures were written, had a Spiritual body.Maybe, others now. We don't know the timescale of prophecy fully.Maybe the Saints and Apostles are now, too.But certainly, a flesh and blood body as Mikeboll believes cannot occupy the higher dimensions. That is…[Read more]

Mikeboll,Keep struggling with introductory English language, Logic, Linguistics and Cognition.Since when did Jesus being 'made lower for a little while' mean explicitly that he was greater/Superior before.Certainly it may be included, but he could also have been 'the same'.More over, we not even discussing if he was superior BEFORE he was…[Read more]

Woyow!!!Mikeboll is fallen to carnal mind.Mikboll says God has a FACE….like a human face, he thinks..Please be warned.,. Let Mikboll be a warning to you all.I used to hold Mikeboll as a brother, begotten brother…(Did i give birth to him? Did i procreate him? Yet i called him begotten, begotten 'brother', why 'brother', Adopted…brother,,,)Now…[Read more]

It means he is first over all created beings.Created beings, being: Angels, Man and Animals.Firstborn means 'Senior', 'First by Rank order', etc.Contextually, it does not mean 'Born first in Spirit before time' as Jesus was Spirit…and Spirits are not 'born'.Jesus, as man, was 'reborn' when God raised him up, he was MAN, therefore 'Born'…from…[Read more]

Shimmer,The 'kill', is figurative…'in a manner of speaking'…Can you 'kill time…while waiting to make a cup of tea because you cannot make the kettle boil any quicker'?Can you 'kill the argument…because it is pointless'?Can you 'kill your desire for that pair of gorgeous must-have boots you saw in the shop window…because you have no…[Read more]