Hi Anthony,

The one who is CALLED God’s only begotten Son is the mortal man Jesus of Nazareth. 

Do you know any other mortal man who was begotten of God’s Spirit without measure? Do you know of any other man who said, “18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the…[Read more]

Hi t8,

YOU:Yes, God declares things in advance. Anyone who believes that the Bible is prophetic, will accept that. And yes Jesus is was a man. He emptied himself and came in the flesh. Wondrous works and grace from God to send his only son to bring many sons into that glory that he had before the cosmos.

ME: OOPS t8, total error on your…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

preeminence -Proteuo

to be first, hold first place

Carmel, God had promised David that he would MAKE his son His firstborn son, higher than the kings of the earth in Psalms 89. . Jesus…[Read more]

Hi t8,

Micah 5:2 teaches us something critical, something our Heavenly Father really wants us to know, because He gives it to us throughout the bible. 

Isaiah 46: 8 Remember this, and shew yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors. 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is…[Read more]

Hi t8,

YOU:Jodi, nothing you have ever said about God’s plans disproves the scriptures that state that he is the Christ and that he had glory with the Father before the cosmos.

ME: Wouldn’t you have had to actually read all that I have said to make your statement one of ACTUAL TRUTH, lol? 

Don’t you mean nothing that I have ever said that yo…[Read more]

Hi Anthony and t8,

Micah 5:2 DOES NOT teach that the one to come from the tribe of Judah to be a leader existed before as some anointed spirit.

Micah teaches that the prophecy of him (a man) that was to come, was an already existing prophecy. Previous prophecies directly attest to this, where it is a promise made of God from that which He had…[Read more]

Hi Anthony and t8,

This is in regards to you using Micah 5:2 as proof of pre-existence.

Isaiah 46: 8 Remember this, and shew yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors. 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YES! God has a purpose for everything under heaven, and by debate reading their false doctrine it has served me in becoming more firmly established in the truth. Seeing there blindness also makes me so much more thankful for the light I have been called to see.

Hi Anthony,

YOU:

Me: as T8 already told you>>  but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness.

Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

but in these last day…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

I love your level of godly patience that I see on this forum. When the word of God is so clear and true to us, I think we both agree that we have absolutely no problem repeating our understanding along with the scriptures that support it, again and again. For me I just become more versed in God’s word, it also gives me the opportunity to…[Read more]

Anthony,

I don’t ever recall you explaining Philippians 2 as to the message Paul is teaching in that chapter. I don’t ever recall you explaining “let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus”. 

Hi t8,

YOU:How does what you say null what scripture says? It doesn’t. You need to be able to handle all of scripture. If your theology lends itself to some scriptures and not others, then you have the wrong understanding. There is no contradiction Jodi.

ME: t8, let me get this straight, you taking a handful of passages to prove pre-existence e…[Read more]

Hi Anthony and t8,

Can you give us the teachings that Paul was giving in Philippians 2, with truth and understanding, utilizing other passages?

Or are we to believe from your belief, that the only lesson Paul is teaching is for us to believe that an anointed spirit named Jesus existed in the form of God and thought in his mind, as that spirit,…[Read more]

To ALL,

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

1 Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not…[Read more]

Hi Anthony and t8,

So you are telling us that the teachings of Paul in Philippians 2 in the context of who Paul is speaking to, that they are to be LIKE MINDED with a spirit “WHO, being in the form of God, THOUGHT it not robbery to be equal with God”?

Psalm 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?…6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

This prophecy, God’s WORD of the future, a promise of a human to come, was God’s word before the world was. 

God is all knowing, you would…[Read more]

Hi t8,

8:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

YOU DENY his anointing…[Read more]

Hi t8,

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself,and became obedient unto death,…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

John 8 is directly according to David and Isaiah’s prophecies concerning a man, such is an undeniable FACT. Jesus said in John 8 that he is the man (anthropos/human) who speaks the truth. He does so according to prophecy fulfilled, where a human would be anointed and SENT out to PREACH.

Hi t8,

DID you MISS that Paul’s message is for people to be in the fellowship of the Spirit and be like minded with The Anointed Jesus?

You want to separate Jesus, when Paul is doing the opposite, Paul wanted fellow brethren to understand the MIND and actions of the MAN God rested his Spirit upon, an anointing, and sent him out to do God’s will,…[Read more]