Good Morning All,

Clear given truth is ignored on this forum by folks time and time again.

1 Chronicles 17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me an house, and I…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

You have totally failed in responding correctly. You have responded by ignoring direct scriptures that prove your doctrine to be false, they prove your interpretations/own insertions into passages to be way off from the clear given truth. 

1 Chronicles 17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

1 Chronicles 17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. 13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son:…[Read more]

Good Morning Gene,

It will be interesting to see Carmel’s response.

Paul’s calling by God as well as other apostles was to preach the gospel to bring people to faith, that which they preached to bring forth believers is that which they wrote in the scriptures. Carmel wants to tell us that the true gospel is actually hidden and he can give us…[Read more]

Good Morning Carmel,

Let’s get to the heart of the matter here, as I see it.

The bible tells me that first you have the son of David and then God makes him into His own Son and He does so according to His Spirit. 

You change this truth in your doctrine Carmel. 

The bible tells me that first you have the son of Jesse and then God rests His S…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

YOU:

precisely ON HIS DEATH to become spirit,

TO RETURN TO HIS ORIGINAL STATE, BUT INTEGRATED ONE SUBSTANCE WITH THE HOLY GHOST in Jesus’ Soul. GLORIFIED AS

JESUS CHRIST

GODMAN, CONFIRMED PRECISELY BY JESUS AGAIN IN

John13:31 …..and God.( in the Holy Ghost,) is glorified in him ( BECOMES MAN IN THE SON OF MAN! )

more acc…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

YOU:

Jesus Christ is

GOD AND FATHER OF ALL FOR THE NEW WORLD TO COME

Isaiah 9:6 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and A SON IS GIVEN to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.

ME: The CHILD BORN IS the promised…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

YOU:John 20:17……

But go to my brethren and say to them: I ascend to ( THE UNIQUE STATE OF) my Father and to your Father, to my God and to your God.

Jesus Christ is GOD AND FATHER OF ALL FOR THE NEW WORLD TO COME

Isaiah 9:6 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and A SON IS GIVEN to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name sha…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

You continue to IGNORE and not use God’s word with God’s word. 

27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

What is he to believe? This is where you go wrong Carmel, this is where you deny God’s word and do not…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

John 17:1 These things Jesus spoke: and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said: the hour is come. Glorify thy Son, (AS GOD on earth) that thy Son may glorify thee. (AS MAN in heaven) 2 As thou hast given him power OVER ALL FLESH,that he may give eternal life to all whom thou hast given him.

ME: What you say is just so entirely…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

I want to address your interpretation of John 17 in a shorter post. I hope that you read all the passages I gave in my last post, so you can see where my understanding comes from, which is directly from scripture!

YOU: John 17:1 These things Jesus spoke: and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said: the hour is come. Glorify thy Son,…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

I honestly don’t know where to begin with you, as I give you scripture and you don’t address it.

I likewise see you filling in your own definitions but then I see a lack of scriptural support for those definitions, just other passages that you have added your own definitions to. Then I have proven to you by direct scripture how those…[Read more]

To All,

Jesus would still tell us today and he will forever tell us that he does nothing of himself. This is because as when he was mortal and as he is now having been raised incorruptible, he is still a HUMAN with God’s Spirit working in him. It was Jesus’s human spirit that was made perfect and then God gave him a perfect body to go with it, as…[Read more]

Hi TC,

You error in your understanding of Melchisedec.

Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

When Jesus was born again, made a Son of God, he was still mortal, he…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:Christ was made a little lower than angels but higher than those descended from Adam. Again, his lineage came from his mother’s side.

ME: What you say is FALSE, this is truly BAD FORM you have CHANGED the written word of God.

Psalm 8:3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast o…[Read more]

TC

Isaiah 11, 42, 45, and 61 is God’s word, and that word became true in the flesh of Jesus of Nazareth.

God is righteous, His word is righteous, His promises are righteous, and His promise revealed to Isaiah that had been WITH God since before time on earth began, was to call a man to righteousness and direct all his ways.

How could God…[Read more]

Hi TC,

It is good to see how you continue to read scripture and when things don’t fit with your previous held belief you are open to change your belief. I have changed my stance on things also through the years from more in depth study of the bible.

I understand “THE WORD” differently from you.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”

Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second ps…[Read more]

Carmel,

17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”

34 For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said, “ ‘The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand

Jesus ascended to the Father so tha…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

Since one man brought sin and death into the world, all of mankind have lived since then in BONDAGE to the FEAR of DEATH. Mankind serves their flesh, they live by bread. Throughout history man has feared death, and when he has hungered his fear brought forth evil thoughts and evil deeds in order to stay alive. Man will steal, lie,…[Read more]