Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
t8,
Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: 23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.
Isaiah 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places,…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
HI t8,
YOU:
There are two adams. If Jesus is a mere man from Adam, then all will die because all will inherit death.
Thankfully, we believe that Jesus Christ the Son of God came from the Father and not Adam. In the son we will live.
All in Adam are of this world. Come out. Be born from above through the one who came from above.
ME: Adam came…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Hi t8,
YOU: There are two adams. If Jesus is a mere man from Adam, then all will die because all will inherit death.
ME:
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man (anthropos HUMAN), Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Ed J,
Acts 13:23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus: 24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi t8,
Another question if you don’t mind.
I apologize if I am in error anyway of what I understand that you believe.
You say Jesus asked God for the glory that he had before the world was and that glory was of him as a pre-existing spirit son.
We are told that he is firstborn of the dead of many brethren, and we are promised to be made into…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi T8,
I am unclear as to exactly what you believe.
I believe Mary’s conception occurred from the power of God’s Holy Spirit and that which she conceived was the promised child of the seed of David. Her virgin conception was the fulfillment of God’s promise that by a sign of a virgin birth the house of David would have their promised savior and…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi t8,
I am glad that you are replying.
YOU:
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.”
ME: The person speaking asking for glory that was of God before the world began was a MAN, and it…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi t8,
YOU: Jodi, I skimmed through the scriptures that you quoted and of course I believe each one of them. But I noticed that you guys group scripture so that there are the ones you regularly quote from and the ones you regularly avoid, but only argue against them when they are brought up. Here are the best examples and by no means an…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Carmel and t8,
John 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Carmel,
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
YOU: describe a SPIRIT, coming down FROM HEAVEN/from the sky.
WITHOUT MENTIONING ANY PHYSICAL ENTITY.
JUST
A SPIRIT
HAVE A GO Jodi!ME: Let…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Carmel,
As Gene said, Jesus did not resurrect himself.
Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Carmel,
Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Carmel,
First point,
The Spirit descended and REMAINED on Jesus for BOTH JEWS and GENTILES alike you are DIRECTLY TOLD.
1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my Spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Carmel,
Gene said it right, and as I said before things just getting more bizarre with you.
The Spirit descended upon Jesus “LIKE” a dove, so now imagine a dove descending from the sky, and now think about how the Spirit of God descended upon Jesus in a SIMILAR FASHION to that of a dove descending. There is NO actual DOVE.
Then it seems at…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Carmel,
What I said is that the passage you gave does not say that having children with your spouse is a SIN, nor is having sex with your spouse. With that being said, our love for God and His Son is to be above all, all people, all things, and all desires.
By our very nature we have been given DESIRES of the spirit and of the flesh by God,…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Carmel,
I am waiting to hear your response to the fact that the Spirit descended and remained upon Jesus. There was NO DOVE, the Spirit descended like a dove.
I am waiting to hear your response to the fact that in Genesis Abram was being told that his heir was not going to be the current steward of his house Eliezer, God promised him that he…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
To All,
Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Gene,
So true, they read passages in error as they deny the exact perspective God established for us to read passages in. They do not apply prophecy, they do not apply God’s promises to the NT, and they want us to treat the writers of the NT as if they were ignorant of God’s prophecies and promises.
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Carmel,
John is of prophecy you think he was IGNORANT to prophecy concerning him and Jesus, who would according to prophecy come after him but be before him in the resurrection and in rank?
You want to tell me there is NO WORD in John 1 that is OF prophecy?
You want to tell me that John speaks NOT OF God’s WORD???
John most certainly…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Soul, spirit, life and death, biblical definitions in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Carmel,
YOU:
WHEN THE DOVE PRECISELY IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME THAT LEFT JESUS,
<h2>THE SPIRIT ALSO LEFT JESUS?ME:
Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mark 1:10 And straightway…[Read more]
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