Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 18 2008,15:09)JodiQuote (Jodi @ Sep. 19 2008,09:01)Who is the one being deceptive?Who is the one trying to plead that false gods do exist?The Old Testament is CLEAR, there is no other supernatural being in existence that has His powers. Yes I see you are still living in the OT with no NT revelation. Yeshua came and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 18 2008,14:16)Hi Jodi, So the power of the Holy Spirit is given to angels to kill and destroy home and cause winds and boils?Surely you are not speaking of the Spirit of Life?This is new teachingNo, this is the foundation of God's work on those who do not listen and follow His commandments. Deut 30: 19,” ….I have set…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 18 2008,14:11)Hi Jodi, Really?Is it written?Nick you can't have it both ways, Is this true or is it not?Isaiah 45:6-7 “That they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting that there is none besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other; I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 18 2008,14:02)Hi Jodi, Job 1-2 is of the OT and shows the amazing powers of the being called Satan.The adversary in Job and in Zacharia were angels of God, and thus being they were granted the powers of the Holy Spirit!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 18 2008,13:51)Hi Jodi, Yes Satan controls carnal man. Praise God for the freedom in Jesus.Yes, the Carnal Mind controls the carnal man, but Jesus destroyed that enmity!

Isaiah 14:12 How hast thou fallen from the heavens, O shining one, son of the dawn! Thou hast been cut down to earth, O weakener of nations. 13 And thou saidst in thy heart: the heavens I go up, Above stars of God I raise my throne, And I sit in the mount of meeting in the sides of the north. 14 I go up above the heights of a thick cloud, I am…[Read more]

Ro 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.Ephesians 2:14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 18 2008,08:06)One thing is for sure, you have your answers all ready and all you do is paste it here, there is no way anybody can type all that up in a second. So whatever you want to believe you will no matter what anybody else puts here.IreneIrene, that post was in response to Nick. I gave it not even seeing yours, and I…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 18 2008,07:57)Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 19 2008,01:49)Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 18 2008,03:31)All Scriptures I found that has Satan in it.1 Ch.21:1Job 1:6Math. 4:10, 16:23, Mark 1:23Luke 10:18, 22:31Acts 5:31 Cor. 5:52 Cor. 11:142 Thes. 2:9Rev. 2″9, 2:13, 2:24, 12:9, 20:7IreneGood morning Irene, Since the word satan is directly referred…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 17 2008,15:21)Hi Jodi,Yes you have worked hard to justify every alternative interpretation but the simple one. By the way I forgot to say that Jb 1-2 shows Satan also can influence the weather.Of Course this adversary can influence the weather, he is an angel under God's powers.Did not Job attribute his affliction to…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 18 2008,03:31)All Scriptures I found that has Satan in it.1 Ch.21:1Job 1:6Math. 4:10, 16:23, Mark 1:23Luke 10:18, 22:31Acts 5:31 Cor. 5:52 Cor. 11:142 Thes. 2:9Rev. 2″9, 2:13, 2:24, 12:9, 20:7IreneGood morning Irene, Since the word satan is directly referred to in the bible as man and also God's messengers, where do you see…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 17 2008,19:07)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 18 2008,13:36)DK…..The word adversary simple implies and adversarial spirit or intellect , In fact an adversary at times can be a helper when used by God, for the good of a person as obviously it was used in the case of Job. At the end of the Book of Job, it says GOD had…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 17 2008,05:18)Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 17 2008,16:21)Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 16 2008,19:24) Gene..cmon..you mean to tell these verses describe our “carnal minds” talking 6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 16 2008,17:46)John 12:31 “Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out.” John 14:30 “I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no power over me.” John 16:8, 11 “And when he comes, he will prove the world wrong about sin and righteousness and…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 16 2008,19:24) Gene..cmon..you mean to tell these verses describe our “carnal minds” talking 6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the LORD, “From roaming through the earth and going…[Read more]

Romans 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.Where in scripture are we told that it takes a manipulating fallen angel to make us live according to our own selves??I need to put to death the deeds of MY BODY, pretty plain and simple. If I don't stop the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 16 2008,20:22)Hi Jodi,You want detail on him. Sorry but you may find more in scripture.Looking forward to when we can crush him under our feetGood news is that he will be put away for 1000 years while his mess on earth gets tidied up.Nick what are you afraid of, or rather what are you hiding from? Why don't you just tell…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 16 2008,19:04)GB, Did Jesus see carnal natures falling from heaven? If you believed Jesus you would not need to add your rationalisations.You really ought not align your master's teaching with paganism.Hi Nick, Jesus declares that he saw the adversary fall from heaven like lightening. Is this the clinching scripture for…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 16 2008,18:26)Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 17 2008,12:29)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 16 2008,16:57)Hi Jodi, Indeed satan does his works through the tainted vessels of menAnd once again I will ask you Nick who do you believe the adversary to be?Hi Jodi, satanthe dragon. the devilthe serpent of old.the god of this world.the prince of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 16 2008,16:57)Hi Jodi, Indeed satan does his works through the tainted vessels of menAnd once again I will ask you Nick who do you believe the adversary to be?