EXcellent! Yes I am OBSESSED with scripture. MY understanding comes from READING scripture and THINKING about scriptures. I read slow and think long and hard. This is necessary so that when I read a scripture I am taking it for what it says and not from that which I have been told by others. Others on this forum have a problem with this, some have…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 12 2009,22:10)Hi Jodi, It is great to know that all evil is not in the hands of men. They are mere vain self important vessels manipulated by greater powers including their ultimate master, the prince of darkness. As Jesus said more or less, deal with the strong man and the rest is relatively easy.Sorry Nick, that is just…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 12 2009,20:53)Hi JKodi, It seem sad you spend so much vain energy in defence of the evil one.Hi Gracious Wonderful Almighty Nick, Would you like to embrace us further with your extreme intelligence, and elaborate to us further on your accusation that my posts defend the evil one?For on the contraire, evil is still evil,…[Read more]

Same here Rabsheka, welcome and thanks for your post. Looking forward to hearing more from you.Blessings, Jodi

Quote (david @ Jan. 12 2009,11:39)I'm curious what you make of 2 cor 4:4:2 CORINTHIANS 4:4“among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.”Jesus also spoke of “the ruler of the world” who was cle…[Read more]

Luke 10:3 1 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also,* and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way;…[Read more]

!tX (saw-tan') is definitely prevalent in our world! A man certainly can prove to be his own enemy, as well as an adversary to God and most certainly to other people. As well, God's messengers of infliction are certainly at work today being adversaries unto man.

The adversary appears in the Old Testament directly as man, and directly as God's messengers. From my understanding and the scriptures that I have given, of which no one seems to want to discuss, the adversary against man is never said to be a sinful supernatural being who wants to be a god. Below are two examples where !tX (saw-tan') is not…[Read more]

2 Kings 13:23 But the Lord was gracious to them, had compassion on them, and regarded them, because of His covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and would not yet destroy them or cast them from His presence. 2 Kings 24:20 For because of the anger of the Lord this happened in Jerusalem and Judah, that He finally cast them out from His presence.…[Read more]

Luke 10:13 `Wo to thee, Chorazin; wo to thee, Bethsaida; for if in Tyre and Sidon had been done the mighty works that were done in you, long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes, they had reformed; 14 but for Tyre and Sidon it shall be more tolerable in the judgment than for you. 15 `And thou, Capernaum, which unto the heaven wast exalted, unto…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 09 2009,22:54)Hi Jodi,In Christ you should not fear Satan. If you can accept the truth of scripture Rom16 says”17Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 09 2009,23:19)Hi Jodi, Of course if we do not know the existence of the god of this world then man becomes the enemy. And the fear of man the curse.Huh?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 09 2009,22:46)Hi Jodi, Do you fear Satan?Ro 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.Sometimes I do fear the evil in man, like when I am alone at night walking to my car. I have to remind myself that God will protect me. As to…[Read more]

To all on this forum, Jesus saw the adversary fall like lightening, and we see in Revelation that the dragon and his messengers are cast out of heaven. Let’s put these scriptures into the CONTEXT of the rest of the bible and not man’s traditions.So what do the scriptures SAY-Isa 14:13 “But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I wil…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 09 2009,21:48)Quote I don't see this dragon or serpent in Revelation 12 to be some super-natural being.REVELATION 12:9“So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with h…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2009,13:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 10 2009,07:54)GB, There are some who qualify that way in the eyes of God. But we do not arrogantly expand the scriptural view of the salvation of men to include all. Besides here is the little problem of the unforgiveable sin.Nick……..How did a expand any thing, it was GOD who…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2009,20:45)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2009,14:53)942767………Man is more subtitle or cunning then any beast God created of the field (earth) isn't he? Where is it said that its a invisible creature or being of some kind. God was merely showing the cunning nature of man at work. This whole false assumption of an…[Read more]

Mark 1:3 and he was there in the wilderness forty days, being tempted by the Adversary, and he was with the beasts, and the messengers were ministering to him.James 1:14 but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.Scripture does not support an evil spirit being that draws us to serve our own flesh. It is by…[Read more]

To all, FACT- In the Old Testament the Hebrew word for adversary !tX (saw-tan') is directly used in conjunction with man and with God's messengers, but it is NEVER once written directly in conjunction with any other sort of 'being'. Fact, the coin phrase 'fallen angel' does NOT EXIST in the bible.God Bless, Jodi

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 07 2009,13:58)Hi Jodi, It is very easy to tie scripture in knots if that is your desire. But a patients respectful pondering in search of truth is preferred by our Father.So Nick why don't you ADDRESS the scriptures of which I gave and show how I'm incorrect and stop being a jerk.