Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
Jael,
I am not sure where to begin with you, lol!!
Yes I am not ignorant to the fact that many are referred to as god’s and what that word represents. Moses was called a god. Idols are false images that people make to represent their false gods. Pagans believed in false gods, they made images of their gods, thats a pretty simple fact. The false…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
Jael,
I am not sure where to begin with you, lol!!
Yes I am not ignorant to the fact that many are referred to as god’s and what that word represents. Moses was called a god. Idols are false images that people make to represent their false gods. Pagans believed in false gods, they made images of their gods, thats a pretty simple fact. The false…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
t8
I have spoken quite clearly about how it was pagan converts who chose the books of the bible and even destroyed original transcripts,they also exiled or murdered opposers. I have never once said that all the books chosen must be inspired by God and be understood as truth. I also have never once said that books outside of the bible must…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 10 months ago
t8
When Jesus said Gehenna he was speaking of the city dump where garbage turned to ash. Reserved in chains could represent the second resurrection of those who wait judgment!
Once again, angel means messenger which ALSO does clearly represent human beings!! To render the text of both Jude and Peter as angels representing human messengers makes…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Hi t8,
I have some questions about the book of Enoch, if the fallen angels are in chains reserved in darkness than how are they influencing the world?
The book of Enoch talks about specific angels and the knowledge they are said to give man! I think this is blasphemous!! God gives knowledge to man and in the book of Enoch it specifically denotes…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Who were the sons of God?
If they were fallen angels I fear all is lost!!
Righteousness is life, sin is death. The resurrection and immortality is our hope. To dwell eternally on earth with God in our presence amongst us, is our hope.
Immortality is achieved through perfection is it not? If you are not made perfect and you find yourself in…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
To add another point, pagan rulers claimed themselves to be hybrids, to be sons of gods. The spirit world mating with humans was a common held belief by the pagans!! IMO it would seem quite evident that the writer of the Book of Enoch incorperated false pagan beliefs in order to create a new and false understanding to what occurred in Genesis…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
I feel like the guy in the video is disproving his opposition through using the opposition’s worste arguments, which makes him really not disproving anything at all!! I do like how he disposes the mistranslation of Genesis 4:26, my Hebrew Mechanical translation uses the words, “at that time they pierced to call out in the title of “YHWH”.” Who is…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Okay, I am just a few minutes into the last video posted and I see major problems already. The youtuber must have forgotten that Noah was himself a direct descendant of Seth! So in fact Seth’s offspring were indeed sons of God, as Noah being said to be without blemish must be considered at the time of the flood to be one of God’s children. The…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Hi t8, that sounds great! That is one thing that is always a challenge, so many things connect to form an individual’s understanding, breaking things down is a good idea. My understanding has changed greatly over the years and it has led to scriptures making more sense and being more connected. It’s crazy how when a particular element to a belief…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Who were the sons of God in Genesis?
What do the scriptures tell us?
To the Israelites God was to be viewed as a Father. Israelites were called the children of God and the sons of God. We see this too for Christians in the NT.
The Israelites were forbidden according to the law of Moses to take pagan wives. They did anyway, which was one reason…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
My understanding is that the Sons of God were indeed men, men of God who fell for and married woman who were far from righteous. God says that He ALONE exists with Powers, that He brings blessing and cursing. In Deuteronomy we see His curses include evil spirits inflicting men, making them go mad! To “worship” is not necessarily to give praise and…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Fear of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 1 month ago
Thanks Gene, I actually got that book from my husband for my birthday back in December. I love it, it's the third book I have from Benner. I believe it is crucial to understand the bible from the Hebrew perspective. Benner has done some awesome work restoring the bible, bringing it closer, I think, to it's original meaning.Thanks again for all…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Fear of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (martian @ Feb. 03 2009,15:08)Perhaps an opinion from a different source would help.Word of the Month – hary (Yirah – Fear)By: Jeff A. BennerThis Hebrew noun is used forty-five times and is most frequently translated as fear. In our English language fear is a state of excitedness, in a negative way, toward something terrible. Before we look…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Fear of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,14:57)Hi Jodi,Yes they are strongly held by the god of this world and the gentle Spirit struggles with their strongmindednessActs2823And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Fear of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,14:50)HI JOdi, I might believe you if cutting off of the mind was a scriptural concept. The mind is renewed.Nick it is sad that you have to be so technical with peoples words just to try and prove them wrong. To cut off something is the same as removing it, or ridding it, or putting it to death. Romans 7:5 For…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Fear of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,14:25)Hi jodi, So water baptism is the new circumcision and the mind needs renewal according to the Spirit of the Christ, the Word. We need the mind of Christ and his words are spirit and lifeHUH,
Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but…[Read more]Jodi replied to the topic Fear of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,14:03)Hi Jodi, You say”This is not a physical act of the Spirit to literally cut off man's flesh, but a spiritual one, one of cutting off the carnal mind that serve the flesh. ” Cutting off the carnal mind? No we need it transformed by renewal.Rom121I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Fear of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,13:52)Hi JOdi, Scripture rather describes the new circumcision differentlyCol28Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10And ye are complete in…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Fear of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,12:26)Hi JOdi, You may believe that and perhaps could find relevant verses but the context proves you wrong in this particular verseEph211Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12That…[Read more]
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