Yes, when Jesus died he paid the penalty for our sins which was death. This is why we are also told that “in Adam all die, so in Christ all shall be made alive.”

We were not made immortals upon his death, but as he could not be held to the punishment of sin which is death, we too are not held to the penalty of sin which is death. In Christ all…[Read more]

Nick,

You said, “Certainly in the 1000 year rest after the resurrection of the sons of God there will be no temptation because the accuser of the brethren will be in prison. But after his release we will see man return to his previous rebellious ways.”

Are you really saying that those whom God perfected and were made Sons of God can fall,…[Read more]

Nick,

Show me where I said that God has an eternal body?

I said God is ETERNAL, not that He has an eternal body!!

Jesus has been given an eternal body by His Eternal Almighty Creator. They are both eternal, not they both have an eternal body, and they certainly do not have the same body.

Nick there are no puppets, we are not God’s puppets nor…[Read more]

Good Morning T8 and All,

There are a few key things I see that people are misunderstanding and therefore they cannot see the truth as it is shown quite clearly in many places.

Earthly man verses heavenly man,

What is the difference? 

First let’s recognize that the word man here is the Greek word for a human being.

So what we have is the E…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

They cannot “wisely” build on anything unless God gives them the wisdom to do so!

The Sons of the resurrection are indeed revealed because upon the second coming of Christ that is when they are created.

Hi TC,

I can say that I do not think I have encountered someone who treats scripture so poorly as you do.
20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

Two things here Christ in verse 20 himself ALONE is identified as the firstfruits, and guess what it is in relation specifically to the…[Read more]

Hi TC,

I have never said that everyone is resurrected at the same time, the unjust I have said are resurrected 1,000 after the first resurrection which occurs at Christs second coming as we are clearly told in Thess 4.

What we are told is that the saints of the OT, and the Saints of Paul’s day and the Saints alive now who might die before…[Read more]

ME: As we are told in Acts, David is still DEAD, he did not ascend to heaven, he died knowing that he would sleep the sleep of death until Christ’s return. The FAITH that he had counted him as worthy to obtain the promise.

New American Standard Bible
Acts 2:29 “Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both d…[Read more]

Good Morning TC,

John 3:5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

You: How can the dead saints in the OT be born of water?

ME: You are BORN of water and…[Read more]

Nick who said anything about doubting God’s ability to raise the dead?

You are seriously struggling to produce a credible argument to try and explain away the passages I have given that prove my points, so you are stumbling with absurd accusations that are directly contrary in all accounts of what I have said.

Think Nick,

If I have stated that…[Read more]

What are you talking about Nick?

Have I not said even before my last post that Jesus died paying the penalty for all sin? Which obviously equates he died for sinners.

Didn’t I give the passage earlier that Paul was baptized with the Spirit. Haven’t I said multiple times that Paul was led by the Spirit and his hope was in mortality being…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

Are there not 2 resurrections one of the just and one of the unjust? How is it possible that ALL are raised from the dead?

ALL are resurrected because Christ paid the penalty for all sins, which is death. All are resurrected from death, because they cannot be held to the penalty of death because he paid for their sins. Christ dying did…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You said, “Those found clean and given an earnest of the Spirit now, if they ask for grace, seek the will of God and and knock on the doors of opportunity He offers, walking in the Spirit will see the kingdom before them growing brighter and brighter. They will not lose the Spirit but confirm their hope of eternal life.”

Almost agree to…[Read more]

Hi TC,

You: Water baptism is calling upon the name of the Lord to save you.  It symbolizes dying with Christ and being resurrected with him.  This is the baptism of the holy spirit.  Fire is the trials that we go through to grow in the holy spirt.

Me: This is NOT the baptism of the Spirit, such a baptism has nothing to do with water.

Jesus di…[Read more]

Hi TC,
37 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink.
38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.”
39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that tim…[Read more]

Hi TC,

I hope you will look at the scriptures above, as being “baptized” in the Spirit for Paul and those at Pentecost had nothing to do with water. John baptized WITH water, they were baptized WITH the Spirit.

Hi Nick,

Below is the account of Pentecost, these men were NOT immersed in water and then because of that the Spirit descended upon them.  Being baptized of the Holy Spirit does not equate to water baptism, that is what John did, this is DIFFERENT. Baptism of the Spirit has no water involved, it equates to the Spirit resting upon you.

Acts 2:1…[Read more]

Please read my post I just gave I didn’t see your last before I wrote that one.

I NEVER said it is for a certain time or purpose. I did ask about the multitude of “Christians” today who are being baptized by pastors, to draw attention to the fact that just because you undergo a water baptism doesn’t mean you are given gifts of God’s Spirit,…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

On the other thread you said,

“He was baptised in the Spirit and now he baptised us in that Spirit.

Now God can be at work in us to will and to do. Phil 2.13”

Christ has indeed anointed men with GIFTS of the Spirit, and we are told that this was for bringing others into faith. The giving of these gifts of the Spirit is NOT the SAME as…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

I hope you will carefully read my post from above.

You said that baptism is like the new circumcision, and you elude this to the physical ritual of immersing yourself in water. That we must undergo this physical ritual.

Romans 6 is not talking about a physical ritual of immersing yourself in water, the baptism here is us being cleansed…[Read more]