TC,

YOU: The Son of man, who is God presented in the flesh cannot be fully tempted. It ended here.

ME: The below passage makes your words about the Son of Man also purely FALSE. 

15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in ALL points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

John…[Read more]

TC,

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

This passage above makes your words of Jesus purely FALSE.  

Jesus and God are as ONE because Jesus followed NOT his own will, he followed God’s will.

Jesus is the mediator of the new testament, the covenant that Isaiah spoke of.

This was a calling to…[Read more]

TC,

How was he able to be tempted, by what did his OWN will come from?

To be a human of flesh means you have a natural mind that is what it means to be a Son of Man in the flesh. Jesus didn’t just have a body of flesh, he was an anthropos a HUMAN and by such he had his own human will, and he did not sin because he followed God’s will instead of…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:I am glad that nobody here subscribes to your “understanding” which is totally weird. You say that the Messiah is a mere man with a flesh and bone body.

ME: I say that the Messiah is NOT a mere MAN, he is a MAN who God placed His Spirit upon in full measure calling him to righteousness to be a covenant saving me from my sins.

I bel…[Read more]

YOU: How was it possible that he could be obedient denying his own will/carnal mind?

ME:

Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own desire, and…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:Christ was a mediator between his father and man because he had the nature of the seed of David and the nature of the holy spirit. He had both. That makes a good mediator.

ME: I am going to keep this simple,

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the…[Read more]

Hi TC,

Much a do about nothing, that is your response? Seems more like a way to AVOID addressing God’s word that doesn’t fit your theories. 

How do you deal with scripture directly telling you that Jesus was raised from the dead RECEIVING the mercies of David as was promised?

How do you deal with direct scripture that tells you that God…[Read more]

TC, the one who the people held the glory of was the one that was SENT after the Spirit had descended like a dove upon him. His FAME began in Galilee where he began speaking God’s word and performing signs and miracles. They beheld the one full of grace and truth, the Son of Man who God was mindful of and visited, making him a little lower than…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:

The spirit of God was in the Messiah as the Word. The humanity of Christ bonded with the Word of God in him.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God The same was in the beginning with God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the…[Read more]

HI TC,

GLAD we agree in something, “God can be fully in Christ and his spirit can be fully in the entire universe at the same time.”

Such is why the Son of Man Jesus of Nazareth is CALLED CHRIST (The Anointed) BECAUSE God placed His Spirit upon Him, just as Isaiah prophesied.

Hi TC,

YOU:

Matt 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

So, how was God in heaven and at the same time in the Messiah fully? It is through his holy spirit. God can do an be an infinite amount of things all at once.

John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God…[Read more]

Hi TC,

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 In whom also ye are circumcised…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:Me: Christ as a life giving spirit and makes intercession or mediation for us. The mind of the spirit (our heavenly Father) and the holy spirit (the Word or son of God) are one.

ME: This makes no sense because scripture speaks against it. There are no passage where our heavenly Father is said to be the mind of the Spirit, and that the…[Read more]

Hi Careml,

YOU:

Jesus Christ unified both the substance of the DIVINITY and the substance of MAN:

Well clear in John 13:31-32,20:17, 12:32!

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus:

ME:

CONTEXT and TRUTH,

John 13:30 He then having received the sop went immediately out: and it…[Read more]

Hi TC,

YOU:

Heb 4:12 For the WORD OF GOD is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked…[Read more]

Carmel,

3 And he said unto them,Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you…[Read more]

Carmel,

You:WHAT ARE THE CREDENTIALS IN ORDER FOR THAT PERSON TO ESTABLISH HIMSELF AS A MEDIATOR?

Jesus didn’t establish himself as a mediator. God established him as a mediator. 

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first…[Read more]

Hello Carmel,

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

For there is one God and one MEDIATOR between God and mankind, the MAN Christ Jesus,

This passage makes the CLEAR distinction that Jesus is NOT GOD, that he is a mediator for us to the ONE TRUE GOD, and as that mediator he is a MAN.

MY BELIEF fits PERFECTLY with this passage, but you speak adding to what it does not say and you m…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

YOU:For one reason or another, there has been and still is a lot of confusion about
whether or not Jesus Christ is truly to be reckoned as God, a god, or whether
He was an angel or some other spirit being.
Anything to do with the Deity seems to be problematical, and not easy to understand. This is because our human minds are not…[Read more]