Yes, Lu. Jesus said that the only way to gain eternal life was to believe (and believing means complying with the commandments and doctrine of God that he brought from the almighty God: the Father) in his ‘father, the only true God, and Jesus, the Christ’.

Lu, do you believe that the Father, is that ‘Only True God’: YHWH?

And do you believe in…[Read more]

So, Lu…

Who is ALMIGHTY GOD?

Who is ‘The ONLY TRUE GOD’?

LU, thank you for as much as you just said… I now fully understand your delusion.

But what happened to response to the part where I asked you to define the title  ‘GOD’ and who is ALMIGHTY GOD if Jesus is only ‘Lord’?

LU, ‘The Father begat Jesus who always existed’!!!

What an amazing concept…

Lu, you are adding impossible none sense to human reproduction.

Your thoughts are so mixed up you are forced to Create even greater mixed up thoughts to cover the first… This is reminiscent of compromised concepts (basically, trying to cover one mis-invention by yet…[Read more]

Oh, by the way, Andrew, please read Galations 3 and you will see several times where reference is made to Abraham (fore)seeing Jesus’ day — BY FAITH in what YHWH said to him that through his, abraham, seed a saviour would come.

Double by the way… Jesus DOES NOT SAY that he SAW ABRAHAM…. Jesus said that ABRAHAM SAW HIS DAY!!!

Think about…[Read more]

Andrew, if you write something like: ‘John CLAIMS (my emphasis) that Jesus is greater than him’ then I understand that you are a pure skeptic. Nothing shown to you is going to make any difference to your wayward opinion – if you even had one.

You ask (me?) why John is the only writer to say …’he that comes before me’… Well, the answer is…[Read more]

LU, ‘Jesus… First works of The Father.’!

Where do you get that from in the Scriptures?

Are you saying that GOD made Jesus?

LU, I would challenge you to show where scriptures Peter shows that Jesus is called YHWH of hosts by YHWH…

((P.s. ‘Yhwh’ is the PERSONAL NAME of Almighty God of the Hebrews, Israelites, Jews, and Christians. Jesus’ personal name …is …. ‘Jesus’ (English spelling).

The TITLE ‘God’ (or THEOS as you put it) is EXACTLY THAT: A TITLE. It means…[Read more]

Oh no…..! Not ‘John 1’???

Andrew, Andrew, Andrew… You lose!!!

When any trinitarian starts quoting ‘John 1’ or ‘Before Abraham, I am’, as a defence for their theology, it is a sure thing that they HAVE NO WORTHY THEOLOGY.

But just to humour you…

I just gave you full and frank examples from scriptures that demonstrate the theme that Jesus…[Read more]

Andrew, Jesus did not say he existed before Abraham.

The Jews asked Jesus if he was greater than their forefather, Abraham. Jesus’ answer was indirect in that he alluded to the Jewish ordinal reflected in saying of John the Baptist: ‘He that comes after me is greater than I’.

Consider:

1) Everyone puts on a concert with support FIRST and the…[Read more]

LU, you seem to have realised the essential fallacy in your (and the trinity) ideology, namely that The Father is MOT Equal to The Son…

Yes, when I ask this question from trinitarians I INVARIABLY get no answer because they realise they cannot say that GOD ALMIGHTY is equal to Jesus Christ. If you notice from ALL WRITINGS IN DEFENCE of equality…[Read more]

Lu, I do not require a one-on-one discussion on the issue raised.

Can you just add your opinion here instead of moving off this thread. After all, the thread is about the fallacy of the son being equal to the Father – it is not about your unsubstantiated (and frankly, fantastically self made ideology) concerning the son being incubated by the…[Read more]

Please explain how GOD (who is Father Son and Holy Spirit) has a SON who is GOD?

Is this SON composed of Father Son and Holy Spirit?

Sounds illogical and rhetorical?

The disputed verses for this thread have been shown to be false for so ongoing that it flummox me that anyone  should bring it up as a point of debate.

Basically, trinitarians…[Read more]

The reference to Elijah was towards the coming Christ who, like elijah, would perform many miracles including raising the dead…

Jesus was NOT THE FIRST to raise a dead person back to life… By the way, Elisha also did the same…

Andrew, how did you suddenly turn on the ‘pre-existent christ’ pipe?

Jesus is a man born as an holy sinless human in the manner of the first man, Adam. This Jesus was empowered by the anointing of the Holy Spirit of the Father and carried out many things classed by the people of the time as ‘Miracles’ – but Jesus told the disciples that it was…[Read more]

Ah, skipping questions that can only result in revealing and affirming trinity fallacies… Yes, Andrew, I understand this method of avoidance from many disputes with trinitarians.

But since the thread is about ‘In the form of’ then let’s stick to this theme with minimum distractions (I always use an opportunity to reveal and confess trinity…[Read more]

Andrew, I came across something you said, and I guess you also believe: back in February 3rd you said about ‘God clothed in human flesh.’

Do you seriously believe ALMIGHTY GOD can be ‘Clothed in human flesh’? Or were you just straining at posting an uncleverly disguised untruth touted by trinitarians?

Can the ALMIGHTY GOD be contained in a…[Read more]

Andrew, I see that attempting to walk the fence over trini et al belief is causing much anxiety and frustration in you.

Once again you try to deflect the argument over how trini’s see their so-called ‘Third Person of the trinity’ Who is lorded and worshipped AS A DOVE by claiming that I said IT ‘BECAME A BIRD (Dove)’ when I patently did not say…[Read more]

Ummm, Andrew, I don’t think you could count me as someone who has led a sheltered life where the Scripture did concerned… It would be (pointlessly) interesting to hear why you think that if me…since it is you who (firstly) claimed that you did not know that trinitarians and others pointedly portray the Holy Spirit as an actual dove. I see you…[Read more]

LU, please address the post question in this thread.

I am not after a one on one debate with you – I posted this thread as an open discussion.