Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
So what have we learnt about ‘Sons of God’?
Preface definition: ‘Son’ means ‘Him, the lesser, who does the works of him, the greater, who gave the works’.
1) All creations of God that are sentient Spirits are Sons of God
2) These are two: Angels (Spirit), and, Humans (Flesh with Spirit in the image of God, their creator)
3) Angel sons of God,…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
I believe a truth seeker really wants the truth, and are not there to say they are right and I told you so. As such, they look high and low for the truth. Even when they have it, they test it and test the doctrine and the teachers. It is the wise thing to do.
t8, I agree with this – but did the video present anything that was challenging that…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
t8, those ‘woken from their graves’ are not true resurrections. Those people would still go on to die again. Have you considered that although Jesus raised several people from the ‘dead’, notably Lazarus, these people are NOT ALIVE today…
The true and everlasting first resurrection is YET to take place.
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
‘be LIKE the Angels’… Not ‘BE Angels’.
This is the same error many make when the scriptures says that ‘the Holy Spirit alighted on Jesus LIKE a Dove.’ Many many many, even after being enlightened, still say that the Holy Spirit WAS a Dove!!
The APOSTLES and the ELECT of God, it is those who will ‘BE LIKE THE ANGELS’. Many, too many, people…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
t8, what drew you to pick that video to ‘discuss’?
Did it seem like the ‘Dude’ MAY have had some TRUTH about Angels and Sons of God?
For me, I don’t see anything that would draw me to view it in full after the first load of nonsense, let alone create a discussion about how wrong he was – especially when he cannot respond!!
This is one of the…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jodi, sorry, I thought ‘Dude’ was meant to refer to the guys in Sodom.
Tue reason I might not everything you are saying is that much of it is pointless. What I mean by that is that there is little point, if any, in attempting to understand how much the ‘Dude’ in the video is presenting falseness. If what he says is seen as false then why…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
t8, and my point is that it is absolutely clear that the guy is talking untowards the truth …so why continue to discuss the falsity of his presentation when he cannot respond to explain. There are enough critically false claims to absolutely dismiss his video commentary.
Discussing at length (too lengthy) a false claim is to be giving a…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jodi, the uniting of a man and a woman…
Read the scriptures CAREFULLY.
You will see that ‘WO-Man’ was created FROM the ‘Man’… Many people falsely read and say that God created Man and Woman ‘separately’ TOGETHER…
No, God made ADAM only… Then TOOK a metaphorical ‘Rib’ and FROM that ‘Rib’ created a Woman.
This metaphorical ‘Rib’ is n…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Hi Jodi, concerning the ‘dudes’ and any suggestion that even if they knew the ‘men’ we’re really Angels… NO, they would NOT have tried to have sex with them.
I think you might misunderstand what Holy (Heavenly) Angels are!! Let me enlighten you: Angels are NOT as you might see them depicted in paintings from the medieval times – nor weeping wet…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jodi, it is certain that the Angels appeared in the guise of human beings. Where the scriptures states them as Angels it is only to ‘remind’ or ‘inform’ the reader that these were not creatures of mankind.
And there is no way they were fallen Angels (I struggle to understand how you came to even imagine that as a point of thought!!). The Angels…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Sorry, I meant, ‘Can I ask why…….’.
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Jodi and t8, why are you two arguing over a random meandering of some guy who (as both of you point out) is clearly missing ‘a few sandwiches short of a picnic’!
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
t8, you asked ,
“They are now called ‘Demons’ (from ‘Demonic’) to reflect their destructive behaviour and influence in the physical world.
Do you have a verse, or is this inferred?Well, No, I do not have a verse and, yes, it is inferred.
Your query would tend to have a suggestion that God created a specific group of ‘out of order’ spirit creatur…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
For me, there’s not much store put by in a video/utube of someone spouting their view over anything someone writes in, say, a Blog, webpage or forum.
Its all, ‘Their opinion’!
The good hope is that such persons MIGHT have done better research or received greater revelation (Greater?) concerning the scriptures (From whom does limited and possibly…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Please remember that ‘Father’ means, ‘He that brings forth ‘.
Did God ‘bring forth the Angels’?
And do not forget that a ‘Son’ is ‘He who does the Will of the Father’.
Do Angels ‘do the Will of the Father’?
And is not the definition of ‘God’, ‘He (or That) which is Supreme, Rules, Reigns, Sustains, above all ‘
Is the Father, ‘God’? (For…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Hi Jodi,
From what I just read of that which you write, I think you are a little confused or have been misled.
The definition of ‘Son(s) of God’ is ‘One (Those) or follow the Holy Spirit’, ‘… Who do the works of God’.
It is ok to substitute ‘Father’ for ‘God’ in the above definition as required.
The holy angels ARE ‘Sons of God’.
When they…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
I think it was you who said it elsewhere, that the definite article is the distinction, e.g., satan vs the Satan or god vs the God.
Likewise, sons vs the Son.
t8, yes, I guess I hear too much false talk from trinitarians trying with futility to justify that Jesus is ‘THE SON’by virtue of being ‘Eternally Born …but not created’ added to their…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
Because trinitarians have always wrongfully taught that Jesus is the son of God – BY SOME INEXPLICABLY MEANS of being ‘Begotten’ by God (They refuse to also understand what ‘Begotten’ means) that was ETERNAL yet NOT ACTUAL… the indoctrination has blunted and stunted the minds of even major scholars, theologians, learned and wise men(?), as well…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
t8, you said, “…is sons of God and can mean angels and men, then what other beings are called sons of God?”
It is a fact that the reason for the mass debates and discussions and ‘alternative’ views concerning ‘Sons of God’ is caused by the absolute MISUNDERSTANDING about what that term means.
‘SONS’ or ‘Son’ in SPIRIT TERMS does not mean the…[Read more]
Jael replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 5 months ago
And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling–these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.
The Bible doesn’t have much to say on this subject and makes a few quotes that kind of seem out of place. Perhaps because the quotes are from the Book of Eno…[Read more]
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