Quote (david @ May 17 2007,19:16)Quote David this is the reason that your religion is a cult. Because it says that you are the “Elite”, the only saved, the only church, and you have the only true bible.1.  WJ, you don't know what the word “cult” means, or you don't understand JW's at all.2.  WJ, the idea that there are many acceptable ways to w…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2007,14:41)Hi h2u, Thank you. May your voice be clearly heard here.Folk are so confused and disabled by the philosophies of men.Nick,Yes there are many philosophies of men. Sometimes I feel angry about that and sometimes my spirit mourns. You are only standing guard for the truth. We should all be standing guard and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2007,14:26)Quote (hope2u @ May 17 2007,06:30)WJ,I can see how referring to Jesus as a god would change the entire picture of who Christ is and that is the whole purpose of Satan, isn't it?  As hard as it is, there comes a time that each encounter with an unbeliever must come to an end if they choose not to believe.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2007,13:42)Quote (hope2u @ May 17 2007,07:58)Thank you WJ.However, I lean toward simplistic explanations.  Jesus was a carpenter as his earthly father, Joseph, was a carpenter.  Jesus is deity as his one true father is deity.  His father passed all power to him when he ascended into heaven and received his place on th…[Read more]

Thank you WJ.However, I lean toward simplistic explanations. Jesus was a carpenter as his earthly father, Joseph, was a carpenter. Jesus is deity as his one true father is deity. His father passed all power to him when he ascended into heaven and received his place on the throne next to his father. As the lamb of God he is the only one anywhere…[Read more]

WJ,I can see how referring to Jesus as a god would change the entire picture of who Christ is and that is the whole purpose of Satan, isn't it? As hard as it is, there comes a time that each encounter with an unbeliever must come to an end if they choose not to believe. The greatest problem we have is unbelievers thinking they are believers and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2007,05:48)Quote (hope2u @ May 17 2007,05:23)Sorry! I suffer slips of the finger from time to time.  I meant to write –not Jehovah's Witness.hope2uQuite alright. But the JWs believe they are the true church and are the only ones to be saved on the earth.If you are not part of their religion then they…[Read more]

Sorry! I suffer slips of the finger from time to time. I meant to write –not Jehovah's Witness.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2007,04:19)Quote Listen, there are hundreds of people on here who don't believe the trinity.If you think they're wrong, I want you to show us why each of them shouldn't be trusted.  David Look around! There are more on this sight that dont believe in your false religion and your cultish Bible the NWT, than there…[Read more]

quote: We receive the power of YHVH's spirit through His son because he is the sinless son of God, who paid the price on the cross for the sin of all mankind from Adam. Please understand that only those who receive the truth of what Christ did on the cross and accept Him as their Lord and Savior are washed of the sin of Adam by the born-again…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 10 2007,05:03)Trinity VersesDirect statements of one God and three persons:  (pretty clear support of Trinity)-Direct statements of the oneness of God:        Deut. 6:4, Deut. 4:35, etc.-no other gods:Isaiah  44:6-Direct statement of three persons who share the one Name of God:           Matthew 28:19-Dire…[Read more]

HN,I realize your need to test and am pleased that you do. I am very strong on the need to test everything by God's Word. I am beginning to see some changes in the Body, perhaps because more are realizing the need to test. Most of the people I know and have known don't question the doctrines they follow, such at the deadly pre-trib and trinity…[Read more]

Jesus said he came to fulfill the Law. John the Baptist was in the line of priests and Jesus was in the line of kings. In the Law the high priest washed in the temple laver before entering the Holy Place. The baptism in water performed by John for Jesus was part of the fulfillment of the Law he spoke of. It was prophesied in Isaiah 11:1 that a…[Read more]

They are Father and Son. I honor both and have no need to qualify how much I honor either one or both. I will not be pulled into picky discussions. It is the picky discussions that cause division in the Body of Christ. There are far more important ways to use the time we have left before Jesus returns, regardless of when that is. When a…[Read more]

To all in this chain of discussion:I don't know if you realize it or not, but this is exactly the kind of disagreement and argument that Satan sits back and has a good laugh at. Degrees in theology and languages doesn't determine a person's understanding of the Scriptures. The only university that counts is the Holy Spirit university in which He…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 14 2007,20:38)Notice he said: “And the Word was a god” OR “And the Word was divine.”  I can, if pressed, explain at length why these two translations amount to the same thing FOR JOHN. The truth is, there doesn't seem to be an absolute perfect way to translate this verse, given the difference in thought and language with…[Read more]

I made a post but can't find it, so maybe I didn't send it.Anyway, hello.You said my post was interesting. Please give your meaning. Interesting good or interesting way off?

John 1:1,2—In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  He was in the beginning with God.Jesus, the son of God (YHVH), is the reason for everything coming into being.  He is the reason God created all things.  In a manner of speaking, Jesus was in the loins of his father in the beginning.  In that sense he was t…[Read more]