Hi brother Tim,I appreciate your contribution on this thread. I can also agree with you on the myth of Original sin (Adamic sin). Yes you are absolutely right in saying that Adam alone was cursed for his sin and not the whole Adamic generations. But I may differ with you on the definition of sin. I believe sin is the transgression of God's…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 15 2011,03:04)kerwinMy question, I believe, was; “what does it mean, as in Adam all die”?What it means is, none of us die for our sins now; that does not mean, we don't deserve death.God cursed all mankind to die for Adams sin, that is why baby's, and little children die, even before they have committed a sin. Would they die…[Read more]

Yes you are right Sis Laurel there is too much confusion in Christianity.Peace and love to youAdam

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2011,11:59)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 12 2011,00:04)Mike………..You asking me what Angels “BODIES” are made out of, i have no idea what those bodies are made But we are made of spirit AND flesh, and have flesh bodies.  What kind of body do you THINK someone who is ONLY spirit would have?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 12 2011,10:22)To All………..John 17:14…..> I have given them your word; and the world has hated them, because they are (NOT OF THE WORLD), (EVEN) OR THE SAME WAY , as (I) and NOT OF THE WORLD. Here Jesus identify himself (exactly) as the disciples he identifies with. They were not of the World and neither was he.…[Read more]

Hi Sis Irene, brothers Kerwin, Gene and TimGreetings to all of you in this New Year. Thanks for all your thought provoking responses on this New thread. In fact I too believe what you all posted above but I am not convinced of what the N.T states especially the Epistles on Original sin and Vicarious atonement. No where in the Hebrew Bible it is…[Read more]

JESUS PREACHED REPENTANCE FOR THE KINGDOM, NOT VICARIOUS ATONEMENTMatthew 6:10,13, (Luke 11:2), “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. . . . For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.”It is G-d's earthly kingdom which Jesus preached.Luke 4:18-19, “. . . he hath anointed me to preach the…[Read more]

Yes I don't see anything like what you imagine here. He gave them skin cloths to cover their nakedness. No where it says about Christ's crucifixion or animal sacrifice. God never offers sacrifice as sin atonement by Himself and to Himself as Christianity imagines. If at all He wanted to convey man anything He will command man like He commanded not…[Read more]

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What fact brother Ed, Original sin? No way..

A Christian also rejects Original Sin (taken again from the same book)Rom. 5:12, 18, 19 “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and deathby sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned…Therefore as by theoffense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by therighteousness of one the free gift…[Read more]

Yes, in fact they transgressed God's commandment, sin may not be appropriate here.

That was individual sin not corporeal as Christianity think. Hebrew Bible doesn't support such false teachings of Christianity.

I don't agree with that opinion of yours. Hebrew scriptures deny Original sin and vicarious atonement.

Hi brother Ed,Here is wonderful explanation on Myth of Original Sin (taken from the book “Are Men Born Sinners? The Myth of Original Sin” by A. T. Overstreet;”The very idea that men can be born sinners is absurd. It is both a physical and a moral impossibility to be born a sinner.It is a moral impossibility because men cannot justly be sinners by…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 17 2010,18:19)Kerwin, I was just saying how I see things.  I personally don't believe in ghosts. I hope I didn't upset you. I apologize if I did.Mike – You asked if I believe Angels have wings. I said I do. But It's just the way I see it. Whether it's true or not I have no idea.Irene, I can't see why divisions should be…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2010,21:17)Adam,Unbelievers are fond of strawmen arguments where they misinterpret a scripture than tear down the lie they made.  You can do this multiple times with multiple scriptures.   Opposing such tactics is simply a waste of time as either a person choose to believe God or they do not.  If they choose to believe Go…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2010,16:50)Adam,I will tell you what I know.  Jesus was merely expressing a Jewish belief known to exist at that time.   His does vary from the version I heard in that he definitely made it clear there was not an angel boatman who allowed travel between the two parts.  Paradise in the cases I mentioned seems to be eq…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2010,16:44)Adam,You atheistic source is not creditable as unbelievers cannot understand the word of God and so cannot use it to make judgment nor in judgment of it.  If you read the Old Testament instead of the fantasy of unbelievers then you would know that the children suffer for the sins of their parents on many…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 17 2010,13:07)Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 16 2010,14:44)I still feel the writers of N.T were Trinitarians in some form or other as their scriptures support most of the Trinitarian doctrines as even our brother WJ argues here based on the same scriptures to prove Jesus' preexistence and divinity. John 1:1-3,14; Rom 10:9-12;…[Read more]