Of course I agree with you brother Gene, as God is only the creator and Jesus is His true image and also he is the firstborn (in position or rank) of all God's creation. Yes God the father was doing every thing through Jesus by His Spirit.Thanks brother.Adam

Who told their teaching is good T8, even the pre-existence teaching is it less than that you think?

Hi WJ, I agree with some of your interpretations of Col 1:16-17, yes I also believe that this verse is not talking about his birth on the day One of creation but on his pre-eminence in this whole universe(creation). He is second to none but God the father. He also became first in God's new creation by being resurrected as first of all to be…[Read more]

I have already thought about you long back.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 08 2008,17:54)942767…..the people in Rev 9:20 will inter into a fiery Judgment with God in the second resurrection and by this intense Judgment that God will bring on them, then they will repent. What you are quoting is what these people are doing in this life, they will come up and be cast into intense judgment (Lake…[Read more]

Hey Nick come on you want to peep into every corner?

Again you are going back to that same old story better we stop here.

May be you can infer whatever you want Nick you are a better Judge to your words.

I meant that only, Nick a spiritual body why so confused?

You search in 1 Cor 15:42-50 by yourself

Yes Nick,He is having Spirit body with flesh and bones as you rightly told (Lk 24:39).

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 08 2008,19:07)Nick….I thought Jesus said it hasn't be given to them to understand the things of the kingdom but unto (you) (the Chosen Disciples) it has been given. So if it hadn't been given to them then how could they understand?Please give me your understanding of the word grace.Marvellous, you have spoken for me…[Read more]

What a foolish question?

Here Nick, in Jn 17:3. I don't believe that he has sent from heaven as being but he was sent in the same way as John the Baptist was sent (Jn 1:6) from God.

Hi LU,Thanks for your response. Yes now I can understand your views clearly. Only thing I differ in such interpretations. Any how we will discuss further on that.I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. In fact that was not my intention at all. You also should be open to learn apart from your personal revelations.Be of good cheer my SisAdam

yes, Jesus was given the Spirit of Father in full and we also have received the same Spirit according to our ability (what we can bear). Infact as human Jesus died and rose again as Spirit literally but that has not happened to us yet. We also will die one day but will be risen with the Spirit body (glorious) similar to that of Jesus on the day of…[Read more]

Come on 942767,God is Father of spirits not only on our conversion but He is the Father of spirits for ever. I don't know why you quote that only when you accepted the Lord? Jesus was not ''life giving Spirit'' when he was human like you and me but after his resurrection. Even the glory that he had to share with the Father in Jn 17:5 came to him…[Read more]

What do you mean Silva? God gave His name to angels don't you read that in O.T. Now He gave His name to Jesus His beloved son and in future He also gives His name to you and me. See Rev 3:12, it doesn't make us Father. You are in complete confusion about understanding God and Jesus.You better stop this arguement here which will not benefit you and…[Read more]

Hi 942767,Please don't misunderstand Gene's words, by this time you must be knowing what he believes. I know you are differing with us on “free will” OK no problem you are at liberty to choose that way. Again I caution you whoever used their so called free will failed miserably in this world. Unless God the creator causes us to do His will we can…[Read more]

May be I don't follow that. I only follow the monotheism of Bible believing that Father is only the True God and Jesus as His Christ (the Messiah) who was sent by that One God