Carmel…..Do you realize you are calling God a Liar, when he said “he alone and by himself,” created the earth and everything in it? 

How bold are you,  to call Jesus’ and our , “Only” true God”,  a “Liar”.  Do you have any idea what hurt that can bring down on you? 

My advice to you is to “repent” , may God the Father  and savior of all, …[Read more]

Berean…..the Greek word “dia” does not mean the same as the English word by means, in the Greek it means “for the Sake of”.  Jesus is the first of many to become exactly what God had in mind for his whole human creation, when he created the first man Adam.

God knew from the start that Adam would fail, because God had planned him to fail, God…[Read more]

Proclaimer……God never created anything through Jesus, nor any human being ever. God “alone and by himself”  created everything that exists, and he alone and by “himself” saves  mankind, and perfects mankind , “HIMSELF” , he does this “ALONE” even perfectin  The “MAN” Jesus , “HIMSELF” AND HIMSELF “ALONE”, just exactly as he does us .  “For…[Read more]

Jodi…..Heb 2:6-8,  is speaking of mankind in a general sense, which does also include Jesus, because Jesus is a son of man as we are, but Hebrew 2:9 is where it “specifically” starts to deal with Jesus himself, as another son of mankind.

I think you already know this, but not sure.

Peace and love to you and yours………..gene

Berean…..So are we also God, after all scripturec says “in the “image” of God created he them, male and female created he them”.

So why do you think it’s just talking about Jesus alone then when it says he was the “image” of God?

As far as who created every thing it was God “alone and by himself that created everything in existence, need…[Read more]

Proclaimer……thank God you understand Jesus was and is not God,  now try to come to understand he did not “preexist” his birth on this earth, and you will deffinitly be moving ahead.  

Proclaimer, Jesus is and always was one of us human being, he is a true “second Adam, in every sense of the word,  brought I to existence exactly as Adam was b…[Read more]

Jodi,  I know this is discouraging to us, but always remember, if Jesus couldn’t cause people to come to him and  the truth, we certanily can’t also, those who will recieve the truth have the truth already in them placed their by God the Father, they by the “Spirit of truth”, know the sound of the truth.  It also helps to remember, “unless the LOR…[Read more]

Berean……So Jesus was lying , when he said   “this is eternal life,  that they may know you the “ONLY” “TRUE” God”?  Was he talking about himself when he said that?

If he was then why did he say ““YOU” are the “ONLY” true GOD?  And let not forget the scripture  Says. 

“unto us there is but , “ONE” God, and “ONE” mediator between God and men,…[Read more]

Berean,  Jodi’s post 866194 to you is “exactly right”,  read it, study it, think about it,  you have the truth handed to you on a platter, brother. 

Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

To those  people who try to seperate Jesus from our exactness, by saying he was “devine” he had the nature of God in him. So that makes him different then we are. so let’s see what your bible says about that.  

2 Pe 1:4…..”whereby are given “unto us”, exceeding great and precious promises: that by theses ye might be “partakers” of the “DEV…[Read more]

Edj…..I believe “everyone is born a Son of God”  or don’t you believe Jesus, who said,  “call “NO” man on earth you Father, for “ONE” is you Father who is in HEAVEN. 

Seem your the one with the “delima” Edj. 

So was God Jesus’ Father , sure is was even as he is our Father also. Or don’t you also not believe him again when He (Jesus ) said this…[Read more]

Edj….God was not trying to demonstrate who a already perfect person “morphed ‘into a human body could walk perfectly and without sin to us. Why would he even think to do that? He was taking a ‘prophesied” real human being that was to come into  his “only” true existence from among mankind, “exactly as Moses and the other Prophets said. A REAL…[Read more]

Carmel…..I understand you believe in God the Son, God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit., you are a true “trinitarian”,  we all know you do not believe Jesus is a true Son of Man, even though he said it over 80 times, you still drive wedges between him and us, doing “exactly” what Satan wants you to do,  and the “many” are with you, going dow…[Read more]

Edj….. So the lesson is this, those who have “now” the nature of God “in” them,  should “also” like Jesus , humble themselves and take on the form of a servant, just like Jesus did. IS THAT not the lesson being given there? 

So what makes people think that scripture , Phil 2:6 ,  some how makes Jesus any different then his brothers and si…[Read more]

Edj…..Good at least you do seem to believe the “nature ” of God is also given to those who have the Spirit of God “in” them, just like Jesus did. So if we say those who have the Spirit of God “in” them also have the “nature” of God , then what makes you people  think that Jesus who existed with the “nature” of God in him, is any different then…[Read more]

Proclaimer. ….Jodi is right it is you who are doing the cherry picking here not Her or I,  we Read your posts, and the others also, except for Carmel, because he does cherry picks words out of scriptures and tries to force them to say what infact they are not even hinting at.  When I see that I do admit I just skim lightly those posts.

Peace a…[Read more]

Edj…..Can you tell us what does the “nature of God mean to you”?  Is that a different nature then  those who have the Spirit of God in them have?

Tell us in what way could Jesus have “robbed” God to make himself “equal” to him.  Jesus could never had made himself actually “equal” to God, but he could have made it appear he was,  by allowi…[Read more]

Edj…..Jodi is the most scripturally accurate person here, beyond a doubt,  she quotes “direct scriptures” backing up what she believes and I also believe. My question to you and others here is why don’t you address those scriptures we ““directly quote” right from your own bibles, but you people will not address them. Why is that Edj?   Do you…[Read more]

Edj…..how many “direct quotes” from the Bible “you use” , do we have to “directly quote” to you people, before you start to believe the very words written in “your own bibles?  You have already proved you people do not “honestly” believe what Jesus said , when he said “” this is eternal life , that t hey might know “YOU” THE “ONLY” true God “…[Read more]

Mike…..Please read what Jodi wrote in detail’

• The light that enlightens,   “every” man that comes into the world” is “the Spirit of God”, how does it (the Spirit of God ) enlighten us, by the “EXACT SAME WAY IT ENLIGHTENED JESUS”, not one ounce of difference.  When we as Jesus recieve the “Holy Spirit ” from God the Father into  us, we reci…

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