Proclaimer,  I see your still hung up on the word, “Before”,  used there by Jesus. Why not spend some of your time and give it and “honest” research for a change, instead of taking the side of those blind,  false accusing people,  Jesus was talking to. 

Those Jew always used Abraham to justify there “position”  with God, why do you think John t…[Read more]

Carmel….I AM NOT GOD,  nor is Jesus the one you have turned into your God.  God has the power to make every word he speaks come ture, I certanly do not have that power, no do , you either.  So the last post of your is pure foolishness. IMO.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Edj….let me break it down for you OK,

1 Peter 1:10 -11…….Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied  of the grace that should come unto you: 11,  Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was “in” them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and u…[Read more]

To all.. …Why not try to understand what a “word is”. First. 

Help for you , a words is an “intellegent”,  “utterance”.  Nothing more or nothing less. When you speak a word,  you are uttering you thoughts , you thoughts are being convaide to another from your mind.  “Your” words are a direct expression of you and only you. 

God and his [Read more]

To all….. The spirit of Christ is not the “man” Jesus, it is the anointing Spirit of God the Father, that Jesus had on him, that he recieved after his baptizm, by John. If anyone dosen’t know that, they haven’t begun to understand the truth yet.

The problem hear is people don’t seem able to “seperate”,  the “anointing” from the “anointed”.  J…[Read more]

Mike…..subject matter did change   it started out speaking about God ‘s word, comming to fulfillment,  the it goes from God to the “man” Jesus’ that is what you people are failing to see.  GOD’S DID PREEXIST, “JESUS DIDN’T” ..JUST THAT SIMPLE Jesus came in to his flesh existence when he c was born exactly like we are From a women, what God had l…[Read more]

Proclaimer………No “WORD” “EVER”!, can “BE”, FLESH.  only a fool Would believe that!  That verse is saying,  GOD the Fathers word, came to be, or into being,  it was the “flesh” man Jesus.  What Jodi and I are telling you is the truth.

You said if I were being honest I would have said , “the word of God was not Jesus”,  but you see he was  “…[Read more]

Edj……the word of God came to be , the flesh man Jesus,  who God the Father though the ANOINTING HOLY SPIRIT CAME TO DWELL IN.

“believe you not that the Father is “IN” ME., if you don’t, believe my words , then believe in the miracles,  that you might know the Father is “IN” ME. 

And again Paul shows us we (who have tbe Spirit of God) are ex…[Read more]

Proclaimer…. Go look at my post 866654,  do you see there where I did answer him, the answer is “NO” , Jesus “himself” is not GOD THE Fathers words, I even gave him a quote where JESUS SAID, “the words I am telling you are “NOT” my word,  but the words of him who sent me”, ,  so the “only way” , the scripture that say “and the word became fles…[Read more]

Edj….I have told you over and over , JESUS HIMSELF IS “NOT”,  God the Fathers word so from the standpoint of your question the answer is “NO” ,  now with that being  said,  please try to follow this OK?,  From the sense of what Jodi and I also say!  Jesus “is” the “fulfillment” of God the Fathers words, the words he spoke through the Prophe…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..I realize you believe your own so-called ” freewill ”  choices is what saves you, and you hate,  the  idea that God the Father has complete control over all his creation,  just as the “potter” has power over the clay, to make it anyway he choses to . I realize you believe you are a GOD UNTO YOURSELF, and can do whatever you wan…[Read more]

Carmel…..I am not saying or “implying”, that Jesus is the source of GOD’S WORDS, God the Father is the scource of his own words, where did you ever get  that idea I was implying anything else  from? 

What I am saying is this,  God spoke in times past “through” the prophets, has in these ladder days spoke to us “through”  a Son, Jesus the Christ…[Read more]

Berean. ….listen to what Jesus said, not me ok, ….“the words I am telling you “Are” SPIRIT, AND “Are” life.  And those words he was telling us, which “are” Spirit and “are” life , we’re not “his”words,  just as he said, “the words I am telling yo u are “NOT” my words,  but the words of him that sent me. 

There you go Berean,  either you be…[Read more]

Edj……Go back and reread Jodi’s post 865194, she is clearly telling you, Jesus “himself” is “NOT” GOD’S WORDS.  He is the “fulfillment ” of God’s words though?  Jodi and I both have been telling people that,  way before you ever came to see it, here.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Proclaimer…..I saw a aircraft carrier,  and she was Hugh,   was the aircraft carrier a women?  Yes /no please,  Your answer would be yes.

That is exactly what you are doing with the “word” thing.   Jesus being “called” the word of God,  is because he “quotes” God the Fathers words to us.  Not because he himself “IS” the word of God the Father…[Read more]

Jodi…..if you are following this, please tell Edj , that you full well know that Jesus “himself” is not The word of God. He is the ” result” or “fulfillment” of the Word of  or “from” God.  

I find it hard that Edj, can’t understand that, Please answer him so he can clearly understand it.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Edj….No, what  Jodi says , is the the word of God,  “became true”   as the flesh man Jesus.  Get it?,  She is not saying Jesus himself is the word of God “himself”, Jesus was and is, the “prophesied ” word of God. That “prophesied” word of God came into being as the Man Jesus, get it?

Edj, your saying the same thing as Jodi and I are broth…[Read more]

To all……Jodi and Edj,  are both right.  JESUS himself is  not the Word of God, he though the eternal  Spirit  of God, speaks the Fathers words to us.  THAT’S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS “BELIEVE” WHAT JESUS SAID,  “the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY  WORDS”, but the words of him that sent me”.  

That along should tell anyone,  that has any se…[Read more]

To the ” ONLY” Saviour is GOD THE FATHER, No matter how he does it he “ALONE” is the one who saves us.  He was the “only one” who also saved the man Jesus.  Had he not raised JESUS FROM THE “DEAD”,  he still would have been dead to this very day. 

Jesus is not our Saviour,  GOD the Father is,  and he “only” is the Saviour of his people and his…[Read more]

Berean…..Wrong again,  GOD,  the  Father is the center of everything  that exists ,  the Gospel is about, the SALVATION OF GOD THE FATHERS , “work” in humanity.  Just as the scriptures say,  “God”  so loved the world, that “HE”,  gave ,  his “only (uniquely) ” begotten human  son, by raising him from the , “dead” , back to “eternal” lif…[Read more]