Berean,   You are conpletely wrong, Jodi is speaking  the apsolute truth,  Satan’s “mystery religion”,  has you completely fooled., and you don’t even realize it, “sad brother”.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………….gene

Jodi……Right on!

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Mike…… You playing semantics here not me,   I have shown you all here how scripture says in the beginning “God Said” , it does not say JESUS SAID, now does it?  So who’s word was spoken in the beginning?, God’s word and who was those words that were spoken. ,  GOD’S WORDS.  

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Carmel. …..Man you are so far out there in delusion, you make anything out of scriptures you want to m even though it is not stated like that , nor even intended to be taken that way.  No one can take what you are saying seriously Carmel, you seem to have long given yourself over to all the deceptions m in modern CHRISTANITY.

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Mike….I am not arguing that a name cannot be applied to someone or anything for that matter,  because of some kind of “atribute ”  Satan is called a snake, but is he “really” a snake.  Jacobs name was changed to Israel, why? Because he prevailed with God.  So atributes can be applied to any thing,  as I already explained ,  Jesus spoke to us t…[Read more]

Mike …..you have to look at the over context of why Jesus said that, if you do you will see that they thought there link to  Abraham was more important then  Jesus was, the used that over and over to show their importance in life was by there relationship to Abraham,  that is why John the Baptist  also said to them,  “God could raise up thes…[Read more]

Mike….I completely agree with your last post to Proclaimer.  But now back to your post to me,  your are right the subject matter did not change until version 18,  but verse is still talking about God and his word, not God and  Jesus being his word.

Mike several reasons,  one of the most obvious, is a word , any word, could never be a “bei…[Read more]

Berean…..Jesus is the “only”, “begotten son”,  (from mankind), of God,  So far,  he is the “firstborn” of “MANY “, BRETHERN”. When will you ever come to see that. It does not say the only one to ever be ,  a Son of God, as you people try to make it out to be. 

Brean what you people do it get about 10%, of what is written while ignoring the othe…[Read more]

Proclaimer……yea, and Clark Kent , was a real “superman” to, because they “called” him that?,  and an airplane is a “real” bird , because they call it that, and a ship is a women because they “call” it a she.  Sur-names are given to many things and people also, that are not “actually” it , but invoke a “characteristic” or “atribute” of it.  Je…[Read more]

Berean…..”call no man on earth your Father for one is your Father who is in heaven.  when are you people going to truly believe What Jesus said? 

Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

Proclaimer. …..What you are pointing out is wrong it alway was wrong and still is wrong. Yes he is “Called” the word of God. That is a sur-name or “title” ,given him because he does speek “God the Fathers words to us” not “his” words. 

Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

Carmel. ……if God himself said there is “no other God” but him, then common sense should tell you he is saying he is also the “only” true” God,  if  you don’t believe God himself, then believe Jesus,  when he said  , “that they might know “YOU” THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD. 

I have given you both God the Father,  and Jesus own words, you either believ…[Read more]

EDJ…..REV 19:13,  …..and he was clothed  with a vesture, dipped in blood: and his name is ““CALLED” , “The word of God”.  

Now look up the words given there for “called”  it will tell you it is sur-name ,  or Title,  like when Jesus said to Simon Bar-jona,  you shall be “called” Peter , that word means a Stone or Rock,  was Peter a stone or r…[Read more]

Carmel…… Here is your answer to your question you ask me.

Isa 44:6-7…… Thus says the LORD the King of Israel,  and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first and the last; and besides me there is “NO”  God.

VERSE 7……Fear you not, neither be afraid; have not I told you from that time and have declared it?, you are even my w…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..the “only” way Jesus himself could be the “word” of God “himself” is if he were God, himself. JESUS IS NOT “NAMED” the Word,  scripture does not say that, It says he is “called” the word of God, it does not say he “IS” the word of God.

look up the meaning of the word “called” ,  it shows it as a “sur-name” ,  not to mention Jes…[Read more]

nayasnana…….Welcome to the form,  you have brought out many good points, and I agree with most of what you have said. You are apsolutely right John 1:1 was talking about God and not Jesus.  Plus many of your other points are also right,  let’s see what the others her have to say about what you have come to understand. To me, it is a sign,  you…[Read more]

Berean. ….Just as I expected, you fail to answer my post, as you and others do to Jodi and I  all the time.  Then you complement anyone who comes along and deverts away from what we have quoted from scriptures over and over, with carnel garbage . The question still is do you “truly believe what Jesus said, the words of his,  which I  quoted to…[Read more]

Berean……God’s word belongs to God “alone”,  no matter who quotes it, the prophets or the flesh  man Jesus.   AND God said this , “you shall have “No” Other God besides me”.  So the question is , do you truly believe what God the Father said?, or have you made anot her God besides him, have you turned the flesh man Jesus,  into your GOD?   …[Read more]

Jodi…..They can only take one  scripture or part of a scripture and make their own blind sense of it,  No matter how many other scriptures we quote that shows them their errors,  they are simply unable to put them together.   If they were of the truth they would have no problem understanding exactly what we are telling them.  This whole thing…[Read more]

To all….The man Jesus said , every word that proceeds out of the mouth of GOD, that shall a man (Jesus was a man) live by”. 

The man Jesus spoke to us “not” his words but the words of God, exactly as he said.  “the words I am telling you are “NOT” my words, but the words of him who sent me”.

Does anyone here have any trouble with those wor…[Read more]