Carmel…..if you truly believed what Jesus said, then you would know Jesus alway said a n d showed us that it was his God that saved him and raised him up from death,  he alway gave God the Father the Glory for not only his life but his SALVATION also, he is the Way We are to be saved and that way is to put al k of our Faith in God the Father  ju…[Read more]

Berean. …..O really,

2 Peter 1 : 3-4  According as his ‘devine” power has given unto us “all” things that pertain unto life and Godliness, through the knowledge of him that has called us to glory and virtue:  whereby are given unto us exceeding great precious promises: that by these you might be partakers of the “devine nature”, having esca…[Read more]

Berean….. the word “the” is a definite article,   that means that is what he “really” is. Your word games is you trying to foce our text to say what infact it is not saying. If I say “a car” or “the car”,  both are referring to a car ,  a car is any car, the car is a specific car, but both are referring to cars. 

Jesus “is” exactly what he…[Read more]

God gave us a little reprieve in President Trump,  now let’s see how long it lasts,  now that Satan and his workers are taking  back control.  Let’s see how long it will take them to destory all the progress made in the last four years.  We are at the end, the  BABYLONIAN kingdoms  of this world, a system  of buying  and selling  and usery  fo…[Read more]

Berean…..If something “DWELLS “IN” YOU”   does that make you “IT” ? , NO , that’s like saying,  I dwell in this house so therefore , the house is me. How foolish to think that!

“know you not that your “bodies” are the temple of the “Living God”?, so,  in your way of thinking I must be God, how foolish , I am no God and neither is or was Jesus…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..The answer to your question is “no” and “yes”

“NO” God created the universe “alone and by himself”.

God created from the foundations of this earth, everything, for the perpose of all humanity, including me and Jesus my lord.  We are the “purpose”  of all his physical creation.

Did I have “Glory” and  “Honor” , and was all thin…[Read more]

Berean…..please show us where what you quoted say I existed before I was born on this earth? 

Again you force the text to say what it does not specifically say?

I could say the same thing about me, “for who he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed unto his Son.” , so tell me,  was I preexisting also? after all it says, who he fo…[Read more]

Carmel……here you go……“that they might know you the “ONLY” true God,” …….

And again,  but unto us tree is “ONE” GOD, and one “MEDIATOR ” between God and men,  the  “MAN” Jesus Christ.  

There is some scripture for you to chew on and destroy to meet your false teachings Carmel.

You have never got past those scriptures yet.  Not to…[Read more]

Berean. ….I see you really don’t want a real bible study, on the scriptures I posted,  but I believe you can see my points m but rather not deal with them in a honest way,  So be it .

Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

Proclaimer,  The “Spirit of truth”, given,  Jodi and I,  here give us the “cognisity” of what is true, and what is a lie. 

Most here do not have it or they would reject all the false teaching about Jesus, derived from all the “apostate” churches, which they have  adopted over the last two thousand years.  

If you believe Jesus “PREXISTED” his bi…[Read more]

CARMEL…..Again  you completely neglected the scriptures I quoted from scriptures to you. The same applies to Berean and Proclaimer,  you all  force our scripture to say what in fact they do not say, and even add your own words and thoughts  to our texts to make your false “assumptions” as the Pharisees  did at the time of Jesus.

But none the…[Read more]

Carmel, Carmel, your so confused,  Jesus is “NOT” that Spirit, that dwelt in him, no more then we are that Spirit either. 

“But if the “Spirit” of Him that raised Jesus from the “dead” dwell in you, “HE”  that raised up Christ (the anointed one) from the dead shall also quicken your mortal (dead) “BODIES” , BY THE SPIRIT THAT DWELLS “IN” YOU…[Read more]

Proclaimer,  wrong again , no he is NOT, the word of God “himself” he is called that “because” he spoke God the Fathers words to us. Me and Mike agree on that.

What you are not realizing is that these people think that he “IS”  GOD’S WORD “HIMSELF” . God spoke “through him”, but that dosen’t make him God’s words, no more then if God were to sp…[Read more]

Berean…….OK, we now agree on  that,  now let’s move on,   did you notice that Jesus never used the   ( pastense)  when referencing God the Father?  Can we agree on that also?

2….. question,  what did Jesus call them? (The Jews talking to him) .  He said they were liars right?

3…..did Jesus say I have  “known ” God as in (pastense)…[Read more]

Edj, …..The first man resurected from the dead to enter the kingdom of God,  is what I said. But to help clarify it to you, he is the first man,  as a human being, to be resurected back to life eternal, never able to die again. Does that make clearer for you?

Peace and love to you and yours……..gene

Brean……did you see,  (greater) or  (greatest) , more ,  (as in more “important” then)  if is obvisely what they were saying and meaning.  The translation has it right even in the English.

They were comparing Jesus to Abraham,  as in Greater in “importance”,   they were not descussing his age, at that point of the text, the age thing came up…[Read more]

Carmel……No Mike is right, Jesus is called thec word of God because he speaks to us thec words of God,  not “his” words,  or don’t  you believe what Jesus said ,  the word I am telling you are “NOT” my word , but the words of him who sent me.  

Jesus plainly tell you THE WORDS HE WAS TELLING THEM WAS “NOT” FROM HIMSELF.

How much clearer…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..well we will see tomorrow, where we are at in this Nation, it will certanily expose us as a people. If the Socialist Democrats win we are in big trouble.  May God preserve our Republic,  till the comming of our lord Jesus.

Peace and love to you and yours………gene

Berean and all……..let’s have a little bible study ,  please pay close attintion to the subject matter, and the “exact” wording, you may be supprised to what it really shows. 

John 8:53….. Are you “greater then”,  our father Abraham, who is dead, and the prophets; and you say , if a man keep my sayings , he shall never taste of dea…[Read more]

Proclaimer……Again you twist scriptures to meet your false assumptions,  it dosen’t say ‘”he” ,  it says the same  (God) was in the beginning”,  you continue to force our text to say what in fact it is not saying. 

Peace and love to you and yours………..gene