Quote (michaels @ July 22 2007,16:49)gene, very very close,for he is at the door,dont be caught unaware dont wait for things to be fullfilled that have allready come to pass,but be ready,for this is the end,we all need to repent to him that we may be found worthy.micheals……I think you are right we may be a lot closer than people think, much of…[Read more]

kenrch…..what i am saying is the man of sin is not a real person at all, but a LIE that creates another GOD, and there by creating the man of sin, it turns Jesus a man into a God and there by creates the man of sin.what your talking about is who's pushing the man of sin idology as being the man of sin, while indeed who ever pushes that idology…[Read more]

to all…..what i am saying is the Man of Sin is not the pope or any man it is the Lie that Jesus is GOD, this lie is the main doctrine of the false church which is the RCC and her daughters the Prodestant churches as well, and if we think this man of sin is yet to come on the scene we could be caught unaware. at Christ's return. and a lot of the…[Read more]

942767….You are right the RCC is the Great whore the mother harlots and abomnations of the earth. but the man of sin is what they espoues as their main teaching it that Jesus is a GOD and this creates the man of sin. it's a false image of Jesus.

to all…… THE MAN OF SINwho is this man of sin spoken of by the Apostle Paul in the second Book of Thesealonians, who some think is the antichrist spoken of nby the apostle John. Some believe Him to the beast or false prophet spoken of in the book of revelation, that is yet to come. Many prophesy his comming and what it will be like when he…[Read more]

Kejonn and kenrch…..the cathloic church and the prodestants both proclain as their main doctrine that Jesus is very God himself and this i believe is (the lie)remember the definite article (the) is used it's just not any lie but a paticular lie that is being spoken of, and it has to deal with a person who truely is in the true temple of God ,…[Read more]

kenrch……No I didn't say Jesus was the Man of sin, but the false image of him being GOD, was . The Man of Sin is not a real person. It is what desplayes Jesus as a God a lie about Jesus that creates this man of sin. Jesus had nothing to do with it came from the apostasied church. This Lie is the thing that keeps the idea of the trinity…[Read more]

kenrch…..If you went up to the pope and said are you the almighty God he would probely laugh and say no, but if you said is Jesus The Almighty God he would say yes. It show's in the original that the temple is the real temple of God not a false temple and it say's to take his Seat as God and who is now seated at the right Hand of GOD is it not…[Read more]

042767……> my question would be then why would Paul say that God would send a strong Delusion in order for them to believe (THE LIE) notice he did not say to believe the lier which would make it a person, but he said (THE LIE) what else could fit, except it's a lie about a person and i maintain it's the lie about Jesus being Very God himself…[Read more]

942767…..yes it's the man of sin i doint think i ever said it was men of sin. Paul said he would come from the midest and the idology of Jesus did come up from the midest of the two religious systems of the Roman Empire the Airus teachings andAnthenaus teaching Arius said Jesus was not a God and he was a Created being, while Anthenaus Jesus was…[Read more]

iam4truth…..> there are several points that need to be concidered with the 2thes2 text, one Paul used specific language in this prophesy. one the man of sin was a person that sit's in the temple of God being desplayed as very God . who is sitting in the timple of God now, and Paul did not mean a fake temple but the real temple of God. Is it not…[Read more]

michael…..> In my opinion Jesus is not God, if he was. why did he say, thou art the (only true God), and also i am going to my God and Your God my Father and Your Father.Jesus never claimed to be God. There is only one God.Jesus did his will and so must we.

michaels…..> you are espousing a righteousness that comes by work's of law, no one ever was able to achieve that except Jesus. even Jesus said to the man that called him Good, “why do you call me good, there only one thats good and thats God. Heres my take on this thing of odedience to the commandments, remember when God said he look for one…[Read more]

David ….some of your points i believe are right, the man of sin definetly came to full view at the Council of Nicaea, But i think this man of sin was a person. Because,1…the definit article (the) is used meaning a paticular person not just any person.2…. the definit article (the) is used concerning (THE LIE)so it can't be any lie but a…[Read more]

michales….> i thimk the man of sin is not a real person at all but a false image of Jesus created by the idology of the trinitarian teachings which changes our concept of Jesus being a flesh and blood man to the Almight God Himself.i think if we read 2 thes 2 very carefully we can see by what is said that it relates to a Lie about Jesus which he…[Read more]

i agree with T8…>if Jesus was not a full 100% man, with the same limitations we have his sacrifice was piont less it would be a sham. It was not God or a God man that died on that cross it was a total 100% man and nothing else. All this confusion is caused by false trinitarian Idology. And the idea that God layed down is His life and Died is…[Read more]

michaels….> there is no where is say's Jesus himself is the word. He spoke God's word's to us, but speaking someone else's word's does not make you the word. Just as Jesus said the words i speak to you are NOT MINE but the word's of Him who sent me. trinitarians can't stand that because it goes aginst there teachings of Jesus being Almighty God,…[Read more]

isa 1:18 & wj…..>tell me this, would you concider Sir Issac Newton's understanding of the bible as having any accedeiitable he could speak and write and read, Greek, Hebrew, Latin fluently. Einstien said he was proberly the smartest man who ever livied. He wrote more on the bible then he did any of his other works….and gess what he was against…[Read more]

to all….> this is what i beleve, Jesus is a created person as we are. The difference between him and us is his position in the plan of God The Father only. he was ordained from the foundations of the world to bruise the head of satan through the seed of the woman. and though he was ordained he was not created untile his birth and then he was…[Read more]

t8 …..brother your just wasting your time with them, even if you pined them down they would just change the suject or get into some endless rambling, you will never convince them, what's interesting no one changes or listens to them, because grater is He that is in you, just dump it Brother…..gene