Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2007,10:50)Hi Gene , Show me where it says the man of sin is not a man but an image and we can work from there.You have presented this teaching and should not be angry it is tested against the word of God surely?Nick…what does (THE LIE) mean to you, that God would cause people who don't love truth to believe by…[Read more]

Kenrch…..Ken I full believe Jesus spoke God's words to us and GOD The Father was in Jesus reconciling the world to Himself through Jesus. i have no problem with that, but when people make the messenger the message when he plainly showed he wasn't himself those words he was speaking and those words came from another source other then him, that's…[Read more]

Nick…show me where it say (JESUS CHRIST' FLESH IS THE WORD) you seen to build on unsuported and unproven foundations yourself. In fact in John 1:1 the word Jesus is not at all in the text. But you seam to take liberties with the text don't you. So if I were you I would not talk about other having unproven foundations.

Nick …what make you think i haven't a proven foundation .Have you read my conclusions or my reasons for what i have put forth to see if it makes any sense. But then it wouldn't make any difference if you did read them. You have proven to me and others you are to compile all the scriptures that deal with a subject and get a reasonable…[Read more]

Nick…. I have given a complete writing on the subject go back an read it and if you have a better Idea who the MAN OF SIN IS show us, were are all waiting to see your brillance. thanks… gene

Nick…quite playing word games man is an Image of GOD. because God made him that way. and all men are images of God also. But an image is Not the real thing it is a copy or refelection or mirror of somthing. And if that Image is called the original thing it is a Lie, Just as the Man of sin Is a LIe about Jesus being very God Himself. I Maintain…[Read more]

Nick….Does it not say God made us in His image, are we not man.anyone can make an image of a man, animal, tree, cross, do you even know what an image is. Itsn't it a reflection of somthing rather Physical or spiritual and an image of Jesus(as a God) is creating a picture of a man as GOD i.e. the man of sin thats why it say's it's the Lie .I you…[Read more]

Kenrch….Nick is looking for anything that can disqualify anything I have said. Rather it makes sence or not, He does not look at the whole picture be but zero's in on just a part as he does other subjects. I would go into detail and show him where it could Just be a Image of a Man, but he still won't get it. thanks…ken

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2007,15:29)Hi Gene, The spirit is not the mind.God does not have flesh.Nick …. so i gess God in your mind, does not have a mind.is He then mindless.so when it says let this mind be in you that was also in Jesus Christ, i gess that wasn't God's mind it was talking about was it. And i gess if this mind was not spirit…[Read more]

Kenrch…..> ken the lie is not a person , thats my point, it's a product of Satan which the whore and her daughters teach and this teaching is about Jesus being God, which creates the man of sin.It's a false image of Jesus himself, thats the man of sin. That why Paul used the definite article (the) the lie. A lie is not a person its a false…[Read more]

kenrch……> I total agree with you that satan is the author of the Lie and carries it out through his Church leaders. And that Lie is that Jesus is God, making this false image of him THE LIE and creates the man of sin. Thats why i said the man of sin is not a real person it a fabercated person that satan fabercated. Satan is the one behind the…[Read more]

Kenrch….. It say's they that worship it's (IMAGE) i wonder if this Image is the Lie that creates the image of Jesus being very God himself and causes people to worship Jesus him as GOD, it fits what most trinitarians do now, and it whats is preached by most all RCC and Protestant churches.Hmmmm, interesting……gene:)

kenrch…..the beast is a government and the whore that rides it is the false church, and remember a rider is always the one who controls the beast. much like a rider controls a horse, it the same anolgy. the Man of sin is neither of these, because Jesus abolishes the Man of Sin Lie at his return, the Man of Sin is not a real person, It's a Lie…[Read more]

942797 …. when is the Great Day of Almighty God, i believe it's at the end of the thousand year reign of Jesus and the Saints on earth, and the time the Father Himself comes. Proceeding the Fathers comming, Satan and his demons will be released out of the pit and go out on the face of the earth to gather all Nation to battle againt the Saints…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 25 2007,15:18)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 25 2007,14:24)942767…….the reason the antichrist isn't there is Because. The antichrist is a Lie about Jesus Being God and will be destroyed at Jesus return by the breath of his mouth just like it say's. The antichrist is the creation the man of sin, and it came about by turnning…[Read more]

942767…..I order to answer your question about the unclean spirits we first have to know what a spirit is. John said to try the spirits to see if they are of God. So we can assume that a spirit has somthing to do with our intellect that kind of makes up who we are and inorder for us to judge it,it must be spoken or be some kind of activity so we…[Read more]

942767…….the reason the antichrist isn't there is Because. The antichrist is a Lie about Jesus Being God and will be destroyed at Jesus return by the breath of his mouth just like it say's. The antichrist is the creation the man of sin, and it came about by turnning Jesus form flesh and blood to a God and Jesus will destory the false image of…[Read more]

Kenrch…..Look up on the internet; the Sir Issac Newton project and see what he said about prophetic symbols it very interesting and also a man named Mede. Very few people realize Newton did more on the Bible then any thing else. Einstine said he through Newton was the smartest man the ever lived. check it out I think you will lke it….gene

kenrch……You are right about Satan creating the man of sin, idologyhe has alway's tried to make more then one God, remember at the garden when he said ” God knows you will be lioke Him knowing good and evil, and again where its said I will asend up and be like the Most High, He is jealous of God.I do agree He is the author of the…[Read more]

942767……You are not quoting the scripture right, it doesn't say the MEN of sin, but the MAN of sin who takes HIS seat in the Temple of GOD, this isn't the pope, he's not in the temple of God, as the text indicates, there is only one who has taken his seat there and that is Jesus, so i aferm that the text is reference Him, as he is being…[Read more]