Laurel….Under the the law does not mean you broke it. It means that's what is controlling you. But we have been set free of that yoke of bondage, which they couldn't keep and we can't either. We do not come to that mountain to FEAR as they did. And if you think you do keep them, then why does John say who ever says they have no sin is a LIER and…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 15 2007,23:41)Mr Steve. That is a silly way of avoiding the truth.Why does Thomas have to call Christ “God the Father” ?   You may try to create a diversion, but you are still faced with the confronting truth.Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 2Pe 3:16  as also in all his letters, sp…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 23 2007,11:28)Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 23 2007,00:27)I have read your post and you are still putting the twist on scripture. Putting your own interpretation and spin rather than accepting the plain truth.If you stopped doing this yourself, then you would see clearer and have some authority to point this out to others.But as it…[Read more]

kejonn….The possibilities are definitly there, it will be interesting how it all washes out some day. I personally don't believe John wrote it either…….interesting post….gene

Im4truth…..There is a lot of confussion on that subject.Let give you my take on it.First of all the ten commamdments are spritual and cannot be keep on a carnel level, this was the problem God had with those carnel Isrealites, they simply would not and could not follow them, they were just to carnel minded. So what God decided to do was turn…[Read more]

laurel…..What does it mean,” whosoever is under law is under a curse?The gentile who have (NOT THE LAW) show the law written in their Hearts by the Hand of God.It also say's the law is for the UnGodly. People who are being lead by God's Spirit doin't need carnel laws commandments to be right with God, The ten commandments are spiritual and can…[Read more]

Elaine…..> i believe Ken is right on this, go through it slowly and think about it. peace sister…..gene

Kejonn….> there is certainly things different about the Gospel of John. And while there were many women who were disciples of Jesus, there are a couple of places where it shows the deciple that Jesus loved might have been a man. John 19:27 say's the disciple took her into (his) household. and John 21:21-22, Peter said what about this (man) and…[Read more]

Kenrch……God bless you brother, you have just showed me and others how the Spirit of God is moving among us and through us all…..love ya brother……gene

Kenrch……> there is some important differences between the way God dwelt with the carnel Isrealites and the way he works with us. God gave His Commandments for Isreal to follow for there good, but they would not follow them, So He turned His commandments into a Law Exodus 20. A law means (forced compliance), after that a man was gathering wood…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 21 2007,17:11)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 21 2007,16:50)Kenrch…..> I could care less if you posted it or not, it sounds like you are being parnaoid. Like is said its not about you and i could care less if you engage in this subject or not. It's become apperant most have left descussing the sabbath anyway. And I think YOU…[Read more]

To all …..> we should look at the sabbath as a time of spicial blessings and a time of special fellowship with our Heavenly Father. There is a scripture that say's we should call the Sabbath (delight ) a good time for us in our fellowship with God and each other. It should not be looked at as a chain around our necks as the pharsiess where…[Read more]

Kenrch…..> I could care less if you posted it or not, it sounds like you are being parnaoid. Like is said its not about you and i could care less if you engage in this subject or not. It's become apperant most have left descussing the sabbath anyway. And I think YOU NEED TO REMEMBER YOU ARN”T MINE OR ANYONE ELSES JUDGE EITHER. Chill out BRO>.

Kenrch……This is a descussion on the Sabbath not a descussion on how (YOU) keep it, or how (I) keep it . I just hope you help teach and be patient with brothers and sisters who are trying to learn about the sabbath. remeember what it say's , if any offend one of these little ones, it would be better fore him if a mill stone were hung around his…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 19 2007,00:27)Quote (michaels @ Aug. 17 2007,00:47)just because john wrote in a selfless way ,not to mention he was this diciple until the end,doesent mean he dident write it,john gives all glory to the father,and son,not claiming to be there that we would keep our eyes on jesus.did he talk about himself thru the hole book,and…[Read more]

to all……> now that we had our spat let move on, with the Sabbath topic.there are several points that need to be understood with reguards to the Sabbath Day.1… is the Sabbath a particular time period and if so what time period is it. Lets start by seeing what God says about it. Gen1:31, then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 20 2007,07:31)People get upset when I say you are following the Harlot.  Well if you are breaking one of His commandments that the NEW Testament clearly says we should keep.  Then who are you following….GOD?Kenrch…..>1John 1:8 if we say we have no sin, we decieve (OURSELVES) and the (TRUTH) is (NOT) in us. I would be a l…[Read more]

to all…..another interesting thing about the cross symbol was when it was first used for a sing of christanity was after a battle. Constantine said he saw a figure of a cross in the air and was told by a local bishop to paint the cross sing non his armies shields, which he did, and also won the battle which lead the way to him becomming Emperor…[Read more]

not3in1….Good to hear your comment, thought you may have got discouraged all this, but remember we are in a struggle for truth in a blinded world. I really enjoy you humer and interesting post, you lift my spirit sister.blessings and peace to you……….gene

Kejonn….>well stated, maybe some of the things you brought out will cause WJ to reconcider his position some day, I hope so……….gene