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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 5 years, 4 months ago

    To all……Jesus did not prexist his birth on this earth.  The complete concept of a preexisting Son of Man,  “Jesus”, is the biggest “lie” Ever fabricated.   It completely destory’s , the  work of God the Father  “IN”  mankind. 

    Common sense should tell anyone there would be no reason for God the Father to take a eternal existing being, and  pu…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……what came into the man Jesus, was the Spirit of God, making God himself in “him” , it wasn’t a seperate inaity  of  “SOMEKIND”,  the Father who IS God was “in”  the man JESUS VIA HIS HOLY SPIRIT.  God the Father was truly “IN” him.  

    Had you understood what I told you before, and even gave you scripture examples to back it up, yo…[Read more]

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    CARMEL,  I And Jodi, have produce 100’s of scriptures That contradict most everything you say , even thos here who agree with some of what you say disagree with you, infact none of you people completely agree with each other , which is an evident token of your lack of the truth of God, you preach what the Father of lies, has taught you to p…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer,  we know we are of the truth, because of the Spirit which God the Father has given us, “he” abides “in” us, giving us the “cognisity” of what is true,   if you or anyone here does also have the Spirit of truth in them, “He” will bear wittines to that person, if what we say is true or not. we know Jesus and hear his voice because it car…[Read more]

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    Jodi. ….Stay strong, as the Spirit of truth, guides us ,  these blind guides grouping at the wall, haven’t a clue about the truth of God. Proclaimer is like a cat chasing  his tail, saying one thing then another,  he agrees then disagrees,  he wants it both ways,  but the truth is one way, God’s way,  we have been blessed to be given the Spiri…[Read more]

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    Keras…….Good post brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    To all……Tell us what point would that prove to mankind, if God took a preexisting “perfect” eternal being who he created everything through, a killed him, and had him become a “mortal ” being, explaine to us how that would prove anything to “mankind”,  that would defeat God’s plan for the human race he created right off the bat.

    But If  God t…[Read more]

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    Carmel…..as I said you change texts to meet your false assumptions   over and over,  nothing seems to be what it actually says to you, that is written in our scriptures,  nothing is real or actual.

    Carmel I don’t know who messed up you thinking over the years, but you really need to quite calling others Carnel, and thinking you are “sp…[Read more]

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    Berean,  yes it was definitely in view of the “man ” Jesus and all humanity as well that “GOD” “ALONE AND BY HIMSELF”, CREATED EVERYTHING THAT PHYSICALLY EXIST.  The whole physical creation is from God “himself,” for all of “perfected” humanity,of which Jesus is the “first” but certanly not the last. 

    Go Back and read the scriptures I “Q…[Read more]

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    Edj…..I wasn’t talking about you last video post but the one before that.

    Just wanted you to know that,  the last posted video was good.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

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    Proclaimer. ….First you agree that God created everything for the purpose or reason , of the man Jesus,  then you deny it by saying he did it “through” him, , we Jodi and I produce scripture after scripture , showing you exactly what we are saying m backed up in our text, but you people just bulldozer over everything we quote from scriptures as…[Read more]

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    Mike……Good post.

    I believe it should be translated as “I am that I am ” meaning  I exist,  because I exist, as in the self existence one.  

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

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    Edj……Are you now following false Prophets?   These  guys are  so screwed up it’s pathetic.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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    Carmel……what does “firstborn” mean,  let me explain that to you, obvisely you don’t understand the very word “firstborn”   , WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE “BORN”  “FIRST”,  was Adam “Born”, or created as the first Human being, he was not Born he was “created” , “because God  created them, “in the image of God created them , male and female ‘CREATED”…[Read more]

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    Proclamer,  yes we as a Nation  will continue to decline, down the path of socialism , this election has shown the world the true state of our Republic.  We are split as a people, with this election the decay will continue. WE ARE NO LONGER THE NATION WE WERE. “SAD” . 

    Prophesies are being fulfilled. The great Babylon is falling and the rest of t…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer,  Berean, Carmel, Edj,  what Jodi  and I are telling you is the truth. 

    JESUS DID NOT CREATE , “ANYTHING “,  NOR DID HE “HIMSELF”DO ANY MIRACLES. 

    He subject to God the Father “exactly” the same as we are.  

    Jesus is a “son of (from) mankind” ,  of the “seed of Abraham”, a human being .  Just as he said he is.  He Can do nothing of…[Read more]

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    To all……God the Father created everything alone and by himself, he did it for a purpose, that purpose was for Mankind , all of MANKIND. IT WAS HIS PLAN IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF HIS PRHSICAL CREATION .  HEBREWS tells us that,

    Heb 2:5-10……For unto the Angels has he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. But on in a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……I see the word for “through” , still causes you to error, why not do a real and “honest”  word search, for a change, and you will find that word means for the “purpose”  of, like,  the reason for .

    GOD the Father plainly said he created everything “alone” and by “himself”, as we have shown you over and over from scripture. But you…[Read more]

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    Berean…..I believe Jesus is exactly he said he is, where are you getting the idea I don’t believe that from. I am not saying  Jesus dosen’t  have the devine nature, what I quoted to you from scripture was so do those who are being saved.  Having a devine Nature , does not make you a GOD OR A DEITY.   AS far as a son of God goes, all true beli…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 4 months ago

    Edj……that scripture has nothing to do with “freewill”,   I have said over and over we do have freedom  to “express” our own Wills, that dosen’t mean the will “itself” IS free, from many things that influence it. 

    You keep drawing straws, to try to prove your points, dosen’t work Edj.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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