Quote (chipwhite @ April 26 2008,15:45)Hello gene,My definition of free will is this. Free will is not a choice void of any type of influence it is the ability to weigh the preconcieved notions and then make the choice. ———————————————————–Chip…….then your definition is not (FREE) Will, but cause and…[Read more]

chipwhite………the issues is not do we or anyone else chosses things, the question is are these choices a result of (Free Will) and I have shown they are not. We are not Free Will beings, If i put a dime and a dollar in front of you and say you can have the one you choose , you would most likely choos the dollar, WHY? because you will…[Read more]

Wj…..first let me answer you…….God is not causing you to be a trinitarian, the false concepts that is installed in your mind does it , he simply is allowing it, until He decides to change your thinking. You are a product of your thinking and what you think was placed their, the cause and the effect is the way you are. Paul was caused to kill…[Read more]

martian….. the problem here is with your use of the word choice. A choice is not the product of Free Will, it is the product of past understanding and desires, The term Free Will implies no influences on choice what so ever. Your combining choice and Free Will as the same when they are not the same. The only one who has Free Will is God and no…[Read more]

chipwhite……..> I'll give you my opinion of as many of your questions as i can, The trinitarinan idea of Free Will is part of their teaching, It has to do with you choosing your acceptance of Jesus on your own after hearing their preaching, as Billy Graham said that's a decision a person has to make all on his own without any influence of any…[Read more]

Quote (chipwhite @ April 24 2008,08:58)Hello everyone, following along when I have time, very interesting debates but I had to throw this in. Gene then did the Holy Spirit from birth take away Jesus's free will to sin if he chose. (If so temptation would not be temptation if it was never an option). Trinitarian dogma or not every human ever…[Read more]

WJ……It Behoved the (MAN) Jesus who was preordained to come into existence to be made exactly like Us. Why? because if He was to assume a position of High Priest (NOT ALMIGHTY GOD) he need to be a human man, So God impregnated Mary by his creative spirit and cosed her to conceive a son of mankind, not a incarnated preexisting being, a…[Read more]

Thanks martain……> i believe our life as well as Jesus' is indeed given and sustained by our Heavenly Father.peace and health to you and yours brother……………….gene

Quote (Cato @ April 15 2008,02:02)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2008,08:48)Hi cato, So your SENSE has become for you the ultimate arbiter of truth? Do any others share your SENSE or is that irrelevant?I guess it depends on how you define sense, for it has quite a number of different meanings.  If I take the definition as “a mental discernment,…[Read more]

WJ…….The Spirit of Jesus the person is the same as the spirits we have. Now the Spirit that was Joined with His Spirit is God's Spirit and that is the Same Spirit thats in all who have God's Spirit in them , it called the Spirit Of Christ or the Spirit of the Anointing, which is God's Spirit it was in Jesus and is in All who have been given it…[Read more]

To all…… there is not greater lie told then our loving Father casting his childern into an ever burnning lake of fire and watching them burn up in everlasting pain and angony. These teachings are right from the mouth of Satan himself and are used by ” Christrdom” to inject fear into the hearts of people, which gives them power over the hearts…[Read more]

Wj……..When you stop all the gandy dancing around still it say “It (BEHOVED HIM) to be made like unto his (Brethern) . Heb 2:17..> “wherefore in (all things) it (BEHOVED HIM) to be made like unto his (BRETHERN)”, Why?,” that he might be a merciful and faithfull high preist “, (not a merciful and hight GOD), “in things pertaining to God, to make…[Read more]

To All………….we all need the Firey Judgements of God to purge us and clean us from all unrightiousness, and while these Judgements can be and are painfull at times, never the less they are needed and will save all humanity eventually. And you who are suffering in the Flesh now, remember what Peter said “He who suffers in the flesh has ceased…[Read more]

gollamudi……..welcome to the site, thanks for the kind words.peace and health to you and yours…………gene

martian……right on, “God who at sundry times spoke to us (through) the prophets has in these latter day's spoken to us (through) a son”. So who spoke, it was God first person speaking (through them) as you say. Another amazing example of this was when God Spoke first person through Jesus was when God first person said “all that ever came before…[Read more]

to all…..Fire repersents God's judgement, remember John said that Jesus would baptise with Spirit and (FIRE). We all need God Fire (judgements) in our hearts to be cleansed.The lake of Fire is GOD, doesen't it say “OUR GOD IS A CONSUMMING FIRE”.peace and love …………gene

Jesus said……..If they eye offend (prevent) you cast it from you, for it is better that you inter into the kingdom of God with one eye then to have two and be cast into the lake of Fire where their (WORM) dieth not and the fire is not quenched, and if thy hand offend (prevent ) you cut it of and cast it from you, for it is better you inter the…[Read more]

Tim…….Wait till you get a 6.5 trust me brother that a real ride. That 10 time more a schock wave the a 5.5. I have experienced several large quakes in my life. You can't hardly believe the earth can move like that.

WJ……Let me show you what you do in answering questions…I said, “you steal (GLORY) from the Father and give it to the Son', something Jesus never did. You came back and said, ” You can't give glory to the Father apart from Jesus.” (Then you changed the wording to),” I give him the same (HONOR) i give the Father because He tell's me to. Then…[Read more]

WJ…..So your saying He (really) wasn't exactly like us then right. Then please tell me why it say's, for it behoved Him to be made like His (BRETHREN) Why would it behove the almighty God to be like His brethren, it says his brethren , not his children, I throught we were God's children not brethren. Looks like we have another deli-ma, but i am…[Read more]